SU 2014 and Plugins

Box

Exactly as said in the first reply to the thread.

TIG

@box said:

Exactly as said in the first reply to the thread.
But you quoted what it ought to be, rather than telling him how to find what it actually is set to be...

driven

if your prepared to use 'Ruby Console'

copy paste this

UI.openpanel(Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins"))

then hit enter...

@TIG, maybe SCF_ could have a 'Plugins folder' menu item???

john

TIG

@driven said:

if your prepared to use 'Ruby Console'

copy paste this

UI.openpanel(Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins"))

then hit enter...

@TIG, maybe SCF_ could have a 'Plugins folder' menu item???

john
Good tip.
Good idea...

ilay7k

Hi
I work in another 3d app. App's developers made command-console's command which points where user can have own preferences dir with such dirs: _bugreports, library, plugins, prefs, tex, updates

i prefer if we can select plugin-dir in preferences of sketchup or simply override it by command: sketchup.exe -userdir "X:\skippyDir"

cotty

@ilay7k said:

Hi
I work in another 3d app. App's developers made command-console's command which points where user can have own preferences dir with such dirs: _bugreports, library, plugins, prefs, tex, updates

i prefer if we can select plugin-dir in preferences of sketchup or simply override it by command: sketchup.exe -userdir "X:\skippyDir"

You can add folder with Fredos Additional Plugin Folders.

ilay7k

Hi Carsten
Thanks for info.
BUT i want it will be by default and from true TSKU dev.team
Ok?

Al Hart

@tig said:

@driven said:

if your prepared to use 'Ruby Console'

copy paste this

UI.openpanel(Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins"))

then hit enter...

@TIG, maybe SCF_ could have a 'Plugins folder' menu item???

john
Good tip.
Good idea...

Notice that:

Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins")

returns the right path even if a "Plugins" folder exists in program Files, e.g.

C;/Program Files (x86)/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/Plugins

But, if, like one of our clients, you have created a subfolder of Plugins in Program Files, such as:

C;/Program Files (x86)/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/RPS

then

Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins/RPS") returns the wrong folder - the one in Program Files when it should have found the one in AppData where we installed it.

(even though the client put it there, it is the wrong place)

I suspect this is a bug in SketchUp 2014.

Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins")
C:/Users/alh/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Plugins
Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins/RPS")
C:/Program Files (x86)/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/Plugins/RPS

driven

@al hart said:

... But, if, like one of our clients, you have created a subfolder of Plugins in Program Files, such as:

C;/Program Files (x86)/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/RPS

then

Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins/RPS") returns the wrong folder - the one in Program Files when it should have found the one in AppData where we installed it.
...

@Al,
for your clients path, shouldn't it be Sketchup.find_support_file("RPS") as it doesn't include "Plugins"?

john

Bob James

$LOAD_PATH
["D:/Dropbox/Plugins",
"C:/Program Files (x86)/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/Tools/RubyStdLib",
"C:/Program Files (x86)/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/Tools/RubyStdLib/platform_specific", "C:/Program Files (x86)/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/Tools",
%(#FF0000)["C:/Users/jamesb/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Plugins",
"C:/ProgramData/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Plugins"]]

Al Hart

@driven said:

@Al,
for your clients path, shouldn't it be Sketchup.find_support_file("RPS") as it doesn't include "Plugins"?

john

In my example, RPS was a subfolder in Plugins.

It was supposed to be in:

C:/Users/alh/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Plugins

where we install it, but there was a rouge copy in:

C:/Program Files (x86)/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/Plugins/RPS

because the user had either copied the SU 2013 version there, or tried to install the SU 2014 version of the plugin in the wrong place.

My point is that if both of these folders exist, Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins/RPS") should only return the one in the proper Plugins folder.

We have solved the problem by first locating

Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins") which works properly, and then verifying that

Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins") + "/RPS" exists.

But we think that Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins/RPS") should have found to correct file.

Box

I think the rogue copy of the plugin folder is caused by installing a plugin via a separately downloaded plugin installer getting it wrong.
I downloaded and installed Twilight as the first plugin on one of my PCs then when I went to use the Plugin store to install something else it flagged the second folder and asked what I wanted to do. Either choice didn't work, so I simply removed the rogue folder manually and all was well.

emerald15

I'm not sure if this is one for Sketchucation or a Twilight forum... but here goes.
I'm trying to install Twilight into SU2014 - according to the Twilight site I select the v1.5.4 specific for SU2014 and it will install automatically. However, when I open SU2014 I get this error message. The Twilight extention in checked in the system preferences window but there it no toolbar for it.

Twilight error.jpg

TIG

@Emerald

Contact Twilight - it initially looks like a problem with their installer ?

blue442

@emerald15 said:

I'm not sure if this is one for Sketchucation or a Twilight forum... but here goes.
I'm trying to install Twilight into SU2014 - according to the Twilight site I select the v1.5.4 specific for SU2014 and it will install automatically. However, when I open SU2014 I get this error message. The Twilight extention in checked in the system preferences window but there it no toolbar for it.

Curious, do you double click files to open them?

I found that by double clicking on files to open them, some (all??) plugin's don't load correctly. However using the sketchup 2014 shortcut, then opening the file once sketchup is running all plugins work fine.

TIG

@Blue442

Please explain what you mean ?
That doesn't sound right ??

tt_su

@blue442 said:

I found that by double clicking on files to open them, some (all??) plugin's don't load correctly. However using the sketchup 2014 shortcut, then opening the file once sketchup is running all plugins work fine.

Yes, there is some problems is you launch SketchUp under windows via SKP files that are no on the same drive as your SketchUp installation. Some paths get messed up and the standard library doesn't load properly.

However I don't think that is the case of Twilight Render, I see in the error message a reference to a .so file - which is a binary file which has to be compiled against the Ruby interpreter we ship. Since we updated the Ruby interpreter in SketchUp 2014 all plugins that use binary extensions must be updated.

Bob James

@unknownuser said:

blue442 wrote:I found that by double clicking on files to open them, some (all??) plugin's don't load correctly. However using the sketchup 2014 shortcut, then opening the file once sketchup is running all plugins work fine.

This happens to me also.

@unknownuser said:

Since we updated the Ruby interpreter in SketchUp 2014 all plugins that use binary extensions must be updated.

Is there a fix in progress for this? If I then close that file with plugins missing, the next file I open has all the previously missing toolbars spread across the screen and need to be repositioned

tomot

I don't plan to go out and buy or upgrade to SU2014, at this time! None of my plugins, use Ruby installation code. I explain via a simple text file were a particular ruby and icons should reside, within the SU file structure. I hope this is still an acceptable method going forward!

blue442

I was speaking with a friend at raylectron, they confirmed it as a sketchup bug and are submitting it.

as someone else mentioned, it happens on any other drive other than the installed drive. So all network folders were affected. Not a big deal really in my opinion. I generally don't open files by double clicking (or right clicking, selecting open).