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    Shade umbrella???

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    • utilerU Offline
      utiler
      last edited by

      @mitcorb said:

      Hi:
      I fiddled with this yesterday. I did it two ways. When I did the deed by sections, selecting each curve in sequence, and mirror copied the result, I noticed the mis-shapened circular opening. When I selected everything and then activated the tool, I got a more regular opening. Segment count and size of segments in the curves do matter for more regular surfaces, as well as degree of curvature. My "good" result still had too much torsion/warpage in the finished surface. Did you see this too?

      Thanks Tim, what tool did you use?

      Just Curious...

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
        last edited by

        I'm not really sure about what shape it is you are after but this is Extrude edges by rails.
        I don't know how you work white on white? sends me blind.


        Ute.JPG

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        • jeff hammondJ Offline
          jeff hammond
          last edited by

          @utiler said:

          That's pretty much how I had attempted it also, Jeff however the 4 'hips' will actually be welded and stretched so they won't appear to have hard edges....

          cheers for the input though! πŸ‘

          soften the edges after arraying. (or gap the array at the hips and fill in with an actual rounded surface)

          the main point being- if you use that outwardly bulging edge of the top ring as part of a networked surface and the opposing edge is straight, the bulge is going to carry throughout the surface.. if you want the surface to sag in the middle, you'll have to do something like i showed (if using curviloft or any of the 2rail sweep plugins)..
          maybe with soap skin& bubble you could get the sunken results as it has the pressure adjuster..

          dotdotdot

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          • mitcorbM Offline
            mitcorb
            last edited by

            @utiler:
            I used Curviloft by activating the "tent" icon.

            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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            • utilerU Offline
              utiler
              last edited by

              So this is where it ended up at but still not convinced its the best result.

              Shade_Curviloft01.png

              Shade_Hidden.png

              Shade_Hidden01.png

              Just Curious...

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                hmm.. i'm not entirely sure what shape you're trying to get.. this latest version is different than the one you first described (or more likely- i misinterpreted before)

                is this what you want? if so, it's easier to draw than the other one i showed.. i'll tell you how to do it if it's the right shape πŸ˜‰

                tent2_v6.skp

                tent2.jpg

                dotdotdot

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                • utilerU Offline
                  utiler
                  last edited by

                  I don't mind that, Jeff? πŸ‘
                  Please tell me more....

                  Just Curious...

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                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                    last edited by

                    You could use Vertex Tools or even the Smoove tool

                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                    • fredo6F Offline
                      fredo6
                      last edited by

                      If you do not have to respect strict profiles, you could give a try to

                      1. Curviloft - Loft by Spline (with Bezier method 2 and play with the tension)

                      Curviloft Tent.gif

                      1. TopoShaper, based on the square and ellipse

                      TopoShaper Tent.gif

                      In either case, you can refine and smooth better with the thomthom's Vertex Tools

                      Fredo

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
                        last edited by

                        @utiler said:

                        I don't mind that, Jeff? πŸ‘
                        Please tell me more....

                        Fredo just showed the way i did it πŸ˜„

                        Loft by spline, bezier method 2, tension controls.

                        dotdotdot

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                        • fredo6F Offline
                          fredo6
                          last edited by

                          @jeff hammond said:

                          Loft by spline, bezier method 2, tension controls.

                          Jeff, I should have though about that. Actually, you are probably the one who knows the most about Curviloft, more than I do (I really need to go back to this plugin and refresh it).

                          @utiler: if you have a profile imposed, it may be better to use Curviloft - Loft along path, as shown in the video.

                          Curviloft Path tent.gif

                          Note that you must disable the "simplify" option, because it creates an artefact

                          Fredo

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                          • utilerU Offline
                            utiler
                            last edited by

                            @rich o brien said:

                            You could use Vertex Tools or even the Smoove tool

                            Never tried Vertex tools, Rich. Might have to give it a go.' πŸ‘

                            Just Curious...

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                            • utilerU Offline
                              utiler
                              last edited by

                              Fredo / Jeff, that looks like it should turn out!!!!! πŸŽ‰

                              I wish I knew how to use curviloft to its fullest; Fredo I can't recall seeing a 'how to' document like you have for your other tools....?

                              This little excessive has certainly opened up some possibilities for different outcomes.

                              Thanks so much to all of you, really appreciate your guidance. πŸ‘

                              Just Curious...

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