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    • EscapeArtistE Offline
      EscapeArtist
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      I use 8 Pro and never use LO. Is there any reason I should switch? Personally, none of the wish list items I would have deemed most useful made it into this version, so I'm not inclined to swap...

      However, if it is discernibly faster I might be convinced to try it out so long as it and 8 can happily coexist l.

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
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        If you don't update you'll be paying full welly next year if it's something that floats your boat.

        Try the trial it co-exists with v8 fine

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        • soloS Offline
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          Faster and more stable, so far that is enough for me.

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          • W Offline
            wyatt
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            @rich o brien said:

            If you don't update you'll be paying full welly next year if it's something that floats your boat.

            It sounds like you're saying if you miss an annual update cycle, that you'll have to buy a whole new license. Rich, has this been confirmed? I haven't seen anything "official" from Trimble on skipping a release.

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            • GarethG Offline
              Gareth
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              Speed and stability are deal breakers for me too (as well as Plugin reliability).....so for that reason alone I'll most likely take it on.

              After all, there is a limit to how many cups of coffee I can drink each time the program hangs when I'm working on a complex model....!! 😆

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                @rich o brien said:

                If you don't update you'll be paying full welly next year if it's something that floats your boat.

                Are you sure?

                On the 2013 FAQ page it says:

                @unknownuser said:

                What happens if I decide to skip a year in this program?

                SketchUp Pro commercial licenses never expire, so skipping a year of the program doesn’t affect your use of SketchUp Pro at all. However, if you do decide to skip a year, you can expect a modest reinstatement fee should you choose to renew your upgrade, maintenance, and support program.

                So from that I infer that you'd pay $95 + some...it wouldn't make sense for them to charge more than 2x the annual fee ($95+95).

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                • W Offline
                  wyatt
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                  Thanks, Marcus. I know I've read that FAQ; not sure how I missed that part.

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                  • Gus RG Offline
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                    So basically Sketchup is now owned by Bain Capital. 🤣

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                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
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                      The upgrade cost plus fee to me is full welly. Whereas 'all in' would mean total price.

                      Sorry for the use of slang.

                      Currently $50 is the moderate fee assigned to OS license change.

                      Getting v2014 at $150 to $200 is certainly a good deal if you need it.

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                      • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                        Reasons why to go on SU 2013 ... ?

                        Well, its a case of Faith, Hope and Charity!

                        Initially .... a leap of faith and then hope that 2013 (and a bit) will deliver more next Sept / October, possibly at a 3D Base Camp. The upgrade price can be looked on as charity 😉

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                        • pbacotP Offline
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                          If there are speed improvements for SU (Pete says so) but especially speed improvements for LO.

                          I just produced a set in SU/LO in v.8 and kept finding the slow rendering every step of the way to be the worst part of the whole process. Every time you make a change. Well you could turn off "auto" but how can you move forward if you can't check the results of what you just did?

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                          • dereiD Offline
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                            @mike lucey said:

                            Reasons why to go on SU 2013 ... ?

                            Well, its a case of Faith, Hope and Charity!

                            Initially .... a leap of faith and then hope that 2013 (and a bit) will deliver more next Sept / October, possibly at a 3D Base Camp. The upgrade price can be looked on as charity 😉

                            Mike

                            Well, I think this is the best answer... I was expecting for it. I didn't wanted to say it by myself, but I was waiting to see when it will appear... as it's the obvious reason. Some speed improvements and small tweaks aren't features for a major release. It's like going with a flower and nothing else to your girlfriend's birthday 😄 .

                            So, I will take Mike's answer that the main reason to go pro with SU 2013 is to show some faith to Trimble... but (hello Trimble, this is for you ==> ) - Also, Trimble shall not disappoint the SU users community in the future.

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                            • R Offline
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                              I had some nasty restriction on one of my PCs in v8: it could not open more than 4-5 files simultaneously. v2013 somehow solved it at last.

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                              • pbacotP Offline
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                                @unknownuser said:

                                It's like going with a flower and nothing else to your girlfriend's birthday 😄

                                Depends on how much she likes what the flowers not hiding. 😳

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                                • KrisidiousK Offline
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                                  @rv1974 said:

                                  I had some nasty restriction on one of my PCs in v8: it could not open more than 4-5 files simultaneously. v2013 somehow solved it at last.

                                  5? I think the most I've ever needed was 3... have you tried that instance plugin?

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                                  • charly2008C Offline
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                                    As a private hobby user I see no reason at the moment to switch to SketchUp 2013.
                                    Sketchup 8 meets my needs until now.

                                    I would rather pay the full price when truly revolutionary innovations are introduced. One of which would be, for example, a high processing speed with high poly models. A better customizable menu structure would also be desirable.

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                                      rv1974
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                                      @krisidious said:

                                      @rv1974 said:

                                      I had some nasty restriction on one of my PCs in v8: it could not open more than 4-5 files simultaneously. v2013 somehow solved it at last.

                                      5? I think the most I've ever needed was 3... have you tried that instance plugin?

                                      What instance plug-in? Anyway I copy-pasted the whole v8 plugins folder to the new 2013 one.

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                                      • Alan FraserA Offline
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                                        Following on from that, Juan; it would seem that now...with a choice of TWO plugin stores and a revised GUI...would be a good time for everyone to do some overhauling of their plugins and the layout of their toolbars.
                                        This might take quite some time to get right; and I wouldn't want to lose all that hard work by being presented with a new release and told I have to perform a clean install...and hence back to first base.

                                        For this reason, I put in a Feature Request for some way of saving any custom configuration to an external file, so that it could survive any such re-install. I don't mind taking time out to Spring clean...I'd just prefer to do it the once.
                                        John Bacus got quite excited about this idea and took it one stage further, suggesting that users would then be able to save a whole collection of UIs, depending on what they were doing. For instance, instead of having a gazillion icons crowding your screen, you could have an 'organic modeling' setup with just the toolbars like Artisan, Round Corners, TIG's Extrude Tools etc. Or you could have a Housbuilder UI with all the parametric roof and walls plugins. Then, having finished that part of the job, you could seamlessly load a landscaping UI with all the topographical stuff and Ivy Maker, Tree Maker etc.
                                        Sounds like a plan to me. 😄

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                                        • jason_marantoJ Offline
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                                          Wow, so "darling" had the awesome inspiration to have user defined custom workspaces -- what a brilliant idea, so far ahead of it's time!

                                          Oh, except for the fact I've already been using custom workspaces in most of my other software for the better part of a decade.

                                          I'm always amazed at how the expectations are so low here that old commonplace ideas are treated as great innovations by the user base...

                                          Of course we should have custom workspaces -- but we should have had them when they were a new idea. Now it's just another example of SketchUp trying to catch up to the rest of the software world.

                                          Wake me when they get there.

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                                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                            Mike Lucey
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                                            @jason_maranto said:

                                            Wake me when they get there.
                                            Best,
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