[Plugin][$] 3D Tree Maker - New version 1.10.14

Oxer · 25 May 2013, 12:44

Incredible plugin!!
I know is in beta phase but it has a great potential to make fantastic parametric trees.
Like previous comments when I open SU it appears Console window with warning messages, I use SU 8 on mac OSX 10.8.3.
In a quick testing all works fine on Mac, if you want I can help you to give support to translate the plugin to other languages, creating a file with strings for translation, I have done a lot of translations for SU plugins.

Box · 25 May 2013, 13:07

He already said he would fix that.

solo · 25 May 2013, 13:20

This is awesome, sure there are a few small things but wow! this is going to be a zinger of a plugin.

Anyway to get a console/applet for modifying the parameters and an update button?

Pixero · 25 May 2013, 18:06

@solo said:

This is awesome, sure there are a few small things but wow! this is going to be a zinger of a plugin.

Anyway to get a console/applet for modifying the parameters and an update button?

If you rightclick on the tree you can change parameters. Is that what you wanted?

kaas · 25 May 2013, 19:36

@ppoublan said:

Dear all,
Just to inform you I made a script to create Sketchup 3D Trees. It's now a beta version,
Yours Pascal

Wonderful - I was messing around last week with Tree[d] but this seems much more to my liking. Will surely test it tomorrow. Again a big

edit: typo

solo · 25 May 2013, 21:57

@pixero said:

@solo said:

This is awesome, sure there are a few small things but wow! this is going to be a zinger of a plugin.

Anyway to get a console/applet for modifying the parameters and an update button?

If you rightclick on the tree you can change parameters. Is that what you wanted?

I saw that, what I'd like is a console/applet where I can do all the changes and update without clicking out to see results then right clicking to make more changes.

jpalm32 · 25 May 2013, 22:40

@cadfather said:

Pascal, works fine here - and the trees look great - if you run Thom's 'Cleanup', you can further save yourself 40000 to 60000 polygons. outrageous plugin, this is going to be perfect when 2014 64bit comes out.

this is going to be perfect when 2014 64bit comes out.

notareal · 26 May 2013, 06:18

Looks great!

@massimo said:

@krisidious said:

Fantastic Massimo...

on revered faces... while this should not be an issue in SU, some renderers will not show backfaces.

But materials seem to be applied on both front and back faces, so this should not be an issue because renderers will "see" the mat on the front face anyway. However I agree that having front faces should be better.

I am not sure if all renderers can handle materials from back faces. With Thea, it really does not matter generally, but some features like displacement, do use surface normals - then things will go wrong.

massimo · 26 May 2013, 07:11

Right.

Krisidious · 26 May 2013, 08:09

On SU 2013 Win, I'm getting this error on startup.

no such file to load -- 3darcstudio/3darcstudiotree.rbs
Error Loading File 3darcstudiotreeloader.rb
no such file to load -- 3darcstudio/3darcstudiotree.rbs

The file is in the location specified.

ppoublan · 26 May 2013, 08:32

@krisidious said:

On SU 2013 Win, I'm getting this error on startup.

no such file to load -- 3darcstudio/3darcstudiotree.rbs
Error Loading File 3darcstudiotreeloader.rb
no such file to load -- 3darcstudio/3darcstudiotree.rbs

The file is in the location specified.

Hi,
I just downloaded and installed SU 2013 Make on Windows 7. And copied the 3darcstudio zip content to the plugin directory.
Seems to work fine.
Are you really sure you copied the subdirectory "3darcstudio" into the SU 2013 Plugins (not the Google old one)?

ppoublan · 26 May 2013, 08:37

@chris fullmer said:

So instead of

t = Geom::Transformation.scaling(scale_factor)

Do this:

t = Geom::Transformation.scaling(scale_factor,scale_factor,scale_factor)

That way it won't write the scale value to the 16th position, but will in fact do the math and distribute it across the entire matrix.

Chris

Thanks Chris, I will change the code according to your sample.

Chris Fullmer · 26 May 2013, 08:40

@driven said:

PM Chris Fullmer re the scaling, I think he may have an answer...

Tis True! This is a known bug introduced in 7.1. Scaling globally by applying a scale factor to the 16th matrix position is bugged. So instead of

t = Geom::Transformation.scaling(scale_factor)

Do this:

t = Geom::Transformation.scaling(scale_factor,scale_factor,scale_factor)

That way it won't write the scale value to the 16th position, but will in fact do the math and distribute it across the entire matrix.

If you need a code snippet to reset the scale of a component to a bug-free transformation matrix, I could post that as well.

Besides the fact that some renderer's don't take this global scale feature into account, a lot of video cards also do not. We've had reports that fog will not work correctly on components with the global scale, and face-me components also do not account for it. So if the leaves are set to face-me, it can cause a lot of craziness

I guess we can take this discussion over to the developers forum if you want to talk more about it. Looks like an awesome plugin!

Chris

ppoublan · 26 May 2013, 08:46

@solo said:

@pixero said:

@solo said:

This is awesome, sure there are a few small things but wow! this is going to be a zinger of a plugin.

Anyway to get a console/applet for modifying the parameters and an update button?

If you rightclick on the tree you can change parameters. Is that what you wanted?

I saw that, what I'd like is a console/applet where I can do all the changes and update without clicking out to see results then right clicking to make more changes.

I think I understand this request. I was myself really disappointed when I wanted to add more input parameters with the poor input types that can be used with UI class.
It will take some time to build it as I'm really a beginner with html and applets. Does someone could confirm SU 2013 has or not better features to build user input data interfaces ? Or should I go any way with Applets and html code ?

Yours
Pascal

Krisidious · 26 May 2013, 08:50

everything seems to be in it's rightful place.

TIG · 26 May 2013, 09:00

Do you have FULL security permissions to the Plugins folder AND all of its contents - files and subfolders...
v2013 will be installed with the defaults, not how you might have adjusted the settings for v8 Plugins...
I'm wondering if you don't have permission to 'read' from the subfolder in v2013...

Another possibility is that the subfolder/files are NOT actually where you think they are - the dreaded 'VirtualStore' issue... Windows over zealously protecting you from yourself without telling you what it's done...
Look in C:/Users/UserName/AppData/Local/VirtualStore
If there are any subfolders matching the SketchUp 2013 Plugins folder, then your security permissions are definitely skewed...

ppoublan · 26 May 2013, 09:06

@driven said:

hi

One request I would have is to allow loading from other Folders/Directories, it appears to be hard coded to Plugins Folder.

john

Hi John,
Could you explain what do you means by "allow loading from other Folders/Directories". Is it to be able to save and load tree templates from other dirs ? I'm building my "todo" list but for this feature I do not know how to manage PC and Mac files and directories from the same code. This is easy with builtin sketchup plugin directories. Will have a look.

Krisidious · 26 May 2013, 09:36

@tig said:

Do you have FULL security permissions to the Plugins folder AND all of its contents - files and subfolders...
v2013 will be installed with the defaults, not how you might have adjusted the settings for v8 Plugins...
I'm wondering if you don't have permission to 'read' from the subfolder in v2013...

Another possibility is that the subfolder/files are NOT actually where you think they are - the dreaded 'VirtualStore' issue... Windows over zealously protecting you from yourself without telling you what it's done...
Look in C:/Users/UserName/AppData/Local/VirtualStore
If there are any subfolders matching the SketchUp 2013 Plugins folder, then your security permissions are definitely skewed...

that virtual folder did exist and there were file from Version 8 in it... some en files, a template and some appliance components. but no files from 2013.

as for permissions... CREATOR/OWNER has none, and when I try to set them it just re-sets to blank. User and Trusted installer, has all permissions, administrators has them all checked and greyed out.

ppoublan · 26 May 2013, 09:42

@krisidious said:

@tig said:

Do you have FULL security permissions to the Plugins folder AND all of its contents - files and subfolders...
v2013 will be installed with the defaults, not how you might have adjusted the settings for v8 Plugins...
I'm wondering if you don't have permission to 'read' from the subfolder in v2013...

Another possibility is that the subfolder/files are NOT actually where you think they are - the dreaded 'VirtualStore' issue... Windows over zealously protecting you from yourself without telling you what it's done...
Look in C:/Users/UserName/AppData/Local/VirtualStore
If there are any subfolders matching the SketchUp 2013 Plugins folder, then your security permissions are definitely skewed...

that virtual folder did exist and there were file from Version 8 in it... some en files, a template and some appliance components. but no files from 2013.

as for permissions... CREATOR/OWNER has none, and when I try to set them it just re-sets to blank. User and Trusted installer, has all permissions, administrators has them all checked and greyed out.

To be sure if it has to do with folder rights and virtual store, try starting Sketchup with admin rights (right click on sketchup icon and choose run as admin..."), and see if the error still occurs.

Krisidious · 26 May 2013, 09:50

@unknownuser said:

starting Sketchup with admin rights (right click on sketchup icon and choose run as admin..."), and see if the error still occurs.

Tried and still the same error.