[Plugin] CleanUp

edfishbone · 10 May 2013, 16:37

Hi

Thanks in advance. Just installed cleanup. Looks great!
I have the TT Lib2 2.7.1 but the installer is calling for 2.8 which i cannot seem to find. The download link does not work.

best

plot-paris · 11 May 2013, 00:38

Hey Massimo,

it was the "Ignore Normals" setting. I had this one ticked. Now its working for me too.
Thanks for the help!

massimo · 11 May 2013, 06:37

watkins · 12 May 2013, 18:39

When using Fredo6's plugin checker it suggests that I do not have the most recent version of cleanup, even though I have installed it. The checker appears to be calling for an earlier version. What's up doc!

thomthom · 13 May 2013, 07:59

@unknownuser said:

HELP!
I have never posted before and I'm sorry to interrupt a conversation but I am having trouble installing the cleanup plugin. I keep getting an error message saying that google was not able to install the plugin for an unknown reason. I use V.8. and I am currently using a pro trial.

As Dave mentions - this is some bug with SketchUp where some users doesn't have proper access to their plugins folder. I'm not a Mac guy, so I don't know the exact steps to correct the folder permissions. :s

thomthom · 13 May 2013, 08:09

@plot-paris said:

Hey Thomthom,
When I run Cleanup over it, it gets destroyed. Even when I scale it up 100x...

When you scale up groups/components you scale only the instance - the definitions are still small. You'd have to "Scale Definitions" for the scaling trick to work.

@plot-paris said:

Hey Massimo,
it was the "Ignore Normals" setting. I had this one ticked. Now its working for me too.
Thanks for the help!

That's odd though, the normals of your model appeared to be correctly oriented and in any case it shouldn't break. But that's probably due to the very small size of the faces.

@massimo said:

Well it works fine for me, without scaling anything, with these settings:

You have a very old version of CleanUp. I'd recommend you update.

thomthom · 13 May 2013, 08:12

@unknownuser said:

Are you sure you installed TT_Lib2 correctly?

What is returned if you open the Ruby Console (under Window menu) and type in TT::Lib::VERSION ?

Also - when you say the link doesn't work - exactly what happens? Error m

Are you sure you installed TT_Lib2 correctly?

What is returned if you open the Ruby Console (under Window menu) and type in TT::Lib::VERSION ?

Also - when you say the link doesn't work - exactly what happens? Error messages?

thomthom · 13 May 2013, 08:13

@watkins said:

When using Fredo6's plugin checker it suggests that I do not have the most recent version of cleanup, even though I have installed it. The checker appears to be calling for an earlier version. What's up doc!

I don't know. Maybe fredo's checker only uses the first digit of the version number? Extracting the digit 1 from 10? I don't really know.

thomthom · 13 May 2013, 09:10

@edfishbone said:

Thanks in advance. Just installed cleanup. Looks great!
I have the TT Lib2 2.7.1 but the installer is calling for 2.8 which i cannot seem to find. The download link does not work.

Yes, since it says "Not Installed" it means you do not have TT_Lib2 installed. Had it been out of date it would have said "Outdated".

I'm going to make a guess that you have placed the RBZ in the plugins folder directly. Note that RBZ files are not the same as RB files. RBZ files must be installed via the "Install Extension" function in SketchUp. (Window > Preferences > Extensions > Install Extension)

For more info on how to install plugins or extensions: http://www.thomthom.net/thoughts/2012/01/installing-plugins-for-google-sketchup/

To make it even easier, have a look at SketchUcations plugin manager that will download and install plugins hosted on this site for you: http://sketchucation.com/resources/plugin-store-download

massimo · 13 May 2013, 11:19

@massimo said:

Well it works fine for me, without scaling anything, with these settings:

@thomthom said:

You have a very old version of CleanUp. I'd recommend you update.

Yes I know, thanks.
I'll do.

edfishbone · 13 May 2013, 18:10

@thomthom said:

@edfishbone said:

Thanks in advance. Just installed cleanup. Looks great!
I have the TT Lib2 2.7.1 but the installer is calling for 2.8 which i cannot seem to find. The download link does not work.

Yes, since it says "Not Installed" it means you do not have TT_Lib2 installed. Had it been out of date it would have said "Outdated".

I'm going to make a guess that you have placed the RBZ in the plugins folder directly. Note that RBZ files are not the same as RB files. RBZ files must be installed via the "Install Extension" function in SketchUp. (Window > Preferences > Extensions > Install Extension)

For more info on how to install plugins or extensions: http://www.thomthom.net/thoughts/2012/01/installing-plugins-for-google-sketchup/

To make it even easier, have a look at SketchUcations plugin manager that will download and install plugins hosted on this site for you: http://sketchucation.com/resources/plugin-store-download

Thanks for the reply. I started again and used your simple installer, then the clean.rbz, and finally the TT_Lib2 file and it worked! I had originally used the plugin manager/store but somehow messed it up.

Cheers!

thomthom · 13 May 2013, 20:21

SCF's plugin store didn't install it correctly?

TIG · 13 May 2013, 20:35

If you use the Plugin Store to auto-install the plugin without the Lib already installed it won't load.
If you use the Plugins Manager to Disable the plugin and immediately try to Load/Enable it again you will get an error message telling you what file[s] is missing...

If you restart SketchUp without having installed the Lib then you'll also get error messages about missing files...

If the plugin is not loaded because of this missing file[s] and you then auto-install the Lib... then the plugin will still not be loaded in that session, UNLESS after that you Disable it and immediately Load/Enable it again, when it will find the Lib and successfully work: much the same as restarting SketchUp would have worked.

All of this is just as if you had downloaded the plugin and Lib RBZ file and manually installed them in the wrong order, using the Preferences > Extensions > Load... button.

If a tool's notes say that it requires a Lib, or another supporting file, it is a wise move to first install that... and then install the tool so it can find the required file a sit is loaded.
Most tools check for their support files as they initially 'load' AND NOT as they are 'run' - indeed some of them can't even bootstrap unless their helpers are present...

yildirimyazgan · 19 May 2013, 17:22

Hello, I tried to use this plugin to clean my model which is a geometry constructed from triangle modules, i wanted the final model to have clean coplanar surfaces. But it didnt worked properly: the possible reason might be because of the surfaces that remaines from the modules; they dont dissapear after the explosion Thus the script sees them as a "corner defining" edge.

The model explains the problem better.(i cleaned the example model manually to show what i want to achieve.)

Do you have any suggestions ? how can i get clean model ?

script problem with modular grouped objects.skp

final model will be around 3000000 of these triangle modules so to do it manually is not rational

Thank you

TIG · 19 May 2013, 19:01

Presumably there are many internal partition.floor faces showing where the horizontal divisions show...
You need to use a tool like 'SolidSolver', which tries to remove these and make the geometry a manifold...
Really you are NOT trying to 'CleanUp' the SKP: rather, you are trying to make it into a 'Solid' - which is a different issue...

thomthom · 20 May 2013, 09:34

@yildirimyazgan said:

they dont dissapear after the explosion Thus the script sees them as a "corner defining" edge.

Where are these extruded triangles groups/components originally? Which you exploded?
If that is the case - they would be solids and I'd recommend you use Solid Tools to merge them all. That should take care of the internal faces which prevents the edges from being cleaned up.

crizilla · 24 May 2013, 13:17

thanks for this. However that would be awesome if you added a "merge vertices" feature. Whenever I import into maya, I have to merge all the vertices. I get tons of overlapping. Shouldn't be that difficult, right? You did it for faces

thomthom · 24 May 2013, 13:37

Got a sample model?

crizilla · 25 May 2013, 07:06

@thomthom said:

Got a sample model?

pretty much any model i do that I bring into Maya it does it. Select a corner vertex and move it, you'll see it will leave a duplicated one there instead of moving all the polygons that you think is connected to that vertex. It's not a big deal. Just throwing it out there.

thomthom · 25 May 2013, 15:04

Into Maya? I though it was when you imported a Maya model into SketchUp... ?

In which case it'd be interesting for me to see a sample model - I don't have Maya.