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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
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      @infinity said:

      Thanks.

      Thats exactly what I want todo but I would make it a little more dramatic!

      Can you tell me how todo this please.

      Thanks again

      i did that in rhino with its paneling tools.. to do it in sketchup, i think the best way would be to use thomthom's Vertex Tools plugin..

      http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29636

      Screen Shot 2013-02-02 at 12.36.01 AM.png

      pretty fast/easy:
      make a single rectangle with each edge divided into 5... array .. vertex tools soft select circle.. vertex tools scale via gizmo..

      you could also get some stuff like this out of fredo's CurviLoft plugin.. less simple but still doable..

      dotdotdot

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      • gillesG Offline
        gilles
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        Sandbox?


        #sandbox.png

        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          If I understand your request correctly, and I may not since it isn't yet 4 am and I haven't had my coffee, you are after a 2D grid that only looks 3D. Is that right?

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
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            Huhu 💚

            That I has never understood is why as soon as the first post there is not an image of what is wished!

            A text can't say precise thing, there is ever interpretation!

            With an image no problem, simple , speedy, perfect!

            Bravo Gilles that is the absolute solution! 😎

            Even it's 2D gride wished just take an image of your sreen as texture! 💭

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • I Offline
              infinity
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              Thanks again for your posts.

              Yes Dave R I am wanting to achieve a 3D effect but have it in a 2D form. I want to cut the lines on a CNC router, so it will be on a piece of plywood hanging on a wall.

              I will download thomthoms plugin and see how I go.

              Another thing I would like to do with it is to cut out the individual sections and use them as tiles in a courtyard to give a very interesting effect on a scale of 10m x 5m.

              Once I have this thing worked out I am happy to post the finished product including the dxf cut files.

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
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                You could use TT's "UV Toolkit" plugin to first apply the material to a set of facets in a grid, second "remember UV" then modify (distort) the grid finally "restore UV" with the plugin.

                Though this tutorial is not about the same thing as it's about 3D, it would work exactly the same way:
                http://sketchucation.com/resources/tutorials/36-intermediate/26-texturing-an-arch-2

                Gai...

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
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                  I'm thinking Didier's Projection tools might be the ticket. I did something similar to what I think you want here.
                  funl1.png

                  In this case I drew a simple funnel shape with no faces.

                  funl2.png

                  Then I set a large rectangle below the funnel and tiled at an angle. I projected the edges of the funnel onto the rectangle.

                  Of course you want a bunch of rectangles to start with so you might use the Sandbox tools or Artisan or Vertex Tools to distort a regular grid as desired. Then project the edges onto the angled face.

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
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                    That's a nice one, Dave! (with SU Pro, you could even export a 2D vector graphic of it)

                    Then of course, there's always the option to do it "simply" in 3D and export a 2D image of the view only...

                    Gai...

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      I was assuming he wants some sort of vector output since he's going to CNC. Otherwise I would have suggested a simple 2D export. I suppose the PNG could be run through some other application to get vector lines.

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                      • TIGT Online
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                        After making the 3d 'black-hole' you need to project it [drape?] onto a flat surface.
                        This can then form the basis of the CNC data.
                        Since the OP seemed to want to cut alternate quads just a little to expose a different material then somehow he needs to pushpull then slightly down...
                        This is going to be the time consuming bit... unless someone writes a one-liner to pushpull alternate faces by -1mm and also alternate doing that in each 'row', so for any four sharing a vertex 0 and 2 are processed... [sdmitch??]

                        TIG

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
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                          ...

                          this is the kind of stuff he's after.. grid distortions using point attractors and whatnot.. lots of this type of stuff going on these days..

                          1.jpg

                          2.jpg

                          3.jpg

                          dotdotdot

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                          • gillesG Offline
                            gilles
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            ...

                            this is the kind of stuff he's after.. grid distortions using point attractors and whatnot.. lots of this type of stuff going on these days..

                            [attachment=2:30vh17hx]<!-- ia2 -->1.jpg<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:30vh17hx]

                            [attachment=1:30vh17hx]<!-- ia1 -->2.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:30vh17hx]

                            [attachment=0:30vh17hx]<!-- ia0 -->3.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:30vh17hx]

                            Vasarely died 1997 march 15, not really these days. Hihi 😄

                            " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
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                              @gilles said:

                              Vasarely died 1997 march 15, not really these days. Hihi 😄

                              right.. but there are innovators then followers .. but i think he's more/less the grandfather of the movement.

                              the top (more recent) picture is a computer model which then went to cnc to be laser cut.. all them brooklyn kids with rhino and cnc machines have this stuff going on 😉

                              also the software processing:
                              http://processing.org

                              i've seen people doing this kind of stuff in flash too..

                              dotdotdot

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                              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                jeff hammond
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                                [edit] the guy who made this video (and the plywood grid i posted earlier) ..

                                Link Preview Image
                                Marius Watz

                                Explore Marius Watz’s 7,533 photos on Flickr!

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                                Flickr (www.flickr.com)

                                go get lost in that photostream for a few hours.. good stuff..

                                dotdotdot

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
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                                  @gilles said:

                                  ...Vasarely died 1997 march 15, not really these days. Hihi 😄

                                  Ah well, here is a great cult of him as he was born in my town (as Győző Vásárhelyi - "Győző" literally means "Victor" and the last name "Vasarely" is just a bastardization of his original surname as "vásárhely" means "marketplace") and he has a quite big exhibition here.

                                  Gai...

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                                  • I Offline
                                    infinity
                                    last edited by

                                    Here is a picture of what I would like to do as well as the piece of art work.

                                    So do you think that thomthoms vertex tool plugin will achieve this.

                                    I was thinking that I could export it as a 2D dxf file to my CAM software.


                                    P1010221.JPG

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                                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                      jeff hammond
                                      last edited by

                                      @infinity said:

                                      Here is a picture of what I would like to do as well as the piece of art work.

                                      So do you think that thomthoms vertex tool plugin will achieve this.

                                      I was thinking that I could export it as a 2D dxf file to my CAM software.

                                      weird.. i can't really figure out if that thing is perspective dependent or not.. but i'm leaning towards it is..
                                      (as in, you have to stand at the same vantage point as the photo was shot from in order to get the full effect)

                                      if that's the case, i don't really know what you should do.. besides experiment..

                                      do a few smaller scale tests comprising of forming a grid then moving vertices around manually using the move tool (with nothing selected, click the move tool on one of the grid intersections and move it around)..
                                      figure out what needs to happen first.. then you'll be able to figure out if vertex tools is the right tool..

                                      (or hey.. generally a helpful bunch around here.. maybe someone will figure it out for you 😉 )
                                      personally, i'm about to switch back to work mode so i don't have the time/energy right now...

                                      dotdotdot

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                                      • I Offline
                                        infinity
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks Jeff, I really appreciate your input on this

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                                        • gillesG Offline
                                          gilles
                                          last edited by

                                          SketchyFFD:
                                          http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=36127#p36127


                                          FFd.png

                                          " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                          • gillesG Offline
                                            gilles
                                            last edited by

                                            For some reason only the first version works for me?

                                            " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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