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    • I Offline
      infinity
      last edited by

      Can anyone help me?

      I want to create a grid and then distort it to create a 3D illusion of a tiled floor that is being pulled into a hole. I then want to CNC cut the lines onto a piece of black or white laminated board to make an interesting piece of art..

      Is there a plugin for this type of grid available?

      Thanks for your help

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
        last edited by

        Something like this ?

        trompette.jpg

        Thickness is given by Joint Push Pull by Fredo 6
        trompette1.jpg

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          Then use Slicer by TIG

          trompette2.jpg

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          • I Offline
            infinity
            last edited by

            Hi,

            Thanks for your quick reply.

            What i really want todo is to have a grid thats rectangular say 50 x 25 with rectangular squares. if you can imagine all the lines being elastic and a tennis ball being pushed into the centre. All the lines would be distorted following the indentation that the ball has made. This would give an optical illusion that the tiled floor was falling into the hole the ball has made.

            Sorry to be so vague but I dont know how to explain it any better.

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              And if you want just a structure
              Line2tubes by Didier Bur

              A possible workflow
              Restart with the form without thickness
              Show Hidden geometry
              Plugin Xline by Rick Wilson Aplly it twice
              Keep only 3 Strips of lines, kill one full vertical line
              Line2tubes by Didier Bur
              Select all
              Copy Rotate * 11
              Have fun β˜€

              trompette3.jpg

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
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              • I Offline
                infinity
                last edited by

                Thanks for your replies.

                I didn't explain what I would like todo well enough.

                1. I would like a grid, say 50 x 25 made up of rectangles rather than squares.

                2. If you imagine the grids lines to be made of elastic. When a tennis ball is pushed into the centre of the grid the lines making up the grid would be distorted and give an optical illusion that they are falling towards a hole made by the ball.

                I hope this better explains what I mean.

                Thanks

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by

                  @infinity said:

                  I hope this better explains what I mean.

                  not really but i'll take a guess anyway πŸ˜‰

                  this?

                  it's flat...

                  dotdotdot

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                  • I Offline
                    infinity
                    last edited by

                    Thanks.

                    Thats exactly what I want todo but I would make it a little more dramatic!

                    Can you tell me how todo this please.

                    Thanks again

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                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                      jeff hammond
                      last edited by

                      @infinity said:

                      Thanks.

                      Thats exactly what I want todo but I would make it a little more dramatic!

                      Can you tell me how todo this please.

                      Thanks again

                      i did that in rhino with its paneling tools.. to do it in sketchup, i think the best way would be to use thomthom's Vertex Tools plugin..

                      http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29636

                      Screen Shot 2013-02-02 at 12.36.01 AM.png

                      pretty fast/easy:
                      make a single rectangle with each edge divided into 5... array .. vertex tools soft select circle.. vertex tools scale via gizmo..

                      you could also get some stuff like this out of fredo's CurviLoft plugin.. less simple but still doable..

                      dotdotdot

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                      • gillesG Offline
                        gilles
                        last edited by

                        Sandbox?


                        #sandbox.png

                        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          If I understand your request correctly, and I may not since it isn't yet 4 am and I haven't had my coffee, you are after a 2D grid that only looks 3D. Is that right?

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Huhu πŸ’š

                            That I has never understood is why as soon as the first post there is not an image of what is wished!

                            A text can't say precise thing, there is ever interpretation!

                            With an image no problem, simple , speedy, perfect!

                            Bravo Gilles that is the absolute solution! 😎

                            Even it's 2D gride wished just take an image of your sreen as texture! πŸ’­

                            Frenchy Pilou
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                            My Little site :)

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                            • I Offline
                              infinity
                              last edited by

                              Thanks again for your posts.

                              Yes Dave R I am wanting to achieve a 3D effect but have it in a 2D form. I want to cut the lines on a CNC router, so it will be on a piece of plywood hanging on a wall.

                              I will download thomthoms plugin and see how I go.

                              Another thing I would like to do with it is to cut out the individual sections and use them as tiles in a courtyard to give a very interesting effect on a scale of 10m x 5m.

                              Once I have this thing worked out I am happy to post the finished product including the dxf cut files.

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
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                                You could use TT's "UV Toolkit" plugin to first apply the material to a set of facets in a grid, second "remember UV" then modify (distort) the grid finally "restore UV" with the plugin.

                                Though this tutorial is not about the same thing as it's about 3D, it would work exactly the same way:
                                http://sketchucation.com/resources/tutorials/36-intermediate/26-texturing-an-arch-2

                                Gai...

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  I'm thinking Didier's Projection tools might be the ticket. I did something similar to what I think you want here.
                                  funl1.png

                                  In this case I drew a simple funnel shape with no faces.

                                  funl2.png

                                  Then I set a large rectangle below the funnel and tiled at an angle. I projected the edges of the funnel onto the rectangle.

                                  Of course you want a bunch of rectangles to start with so you might use the Sandbox tools or Artisan or Vertex Tools to distort a regular grid as desired. Then project the edges onto the angled face.

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                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    That's a nice one, Dave! (with SU Pro, you could even export a 2D vector graphic of it)

                                    Then of course, there's always the option to do it "simply" in 3D and export a 2D image of the view only...

                                    Gai...

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by

                                      I was assuming he wants some sort of vector output since he's going to CNC. Otherwise I would have suggested a simple 2D export. I suppose the PNG could be run through some other application to get vector lines.

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                                      • TIGT Online
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                                        After making the 3d 'black-hole' you need to project it [drape?] onto a flat surface.
                                        This can then form the basis of the CNC data.
                                        Since the OP seemed to want to cut alternate quads just a little to expose a different material then somehow he needs to pushpull then slightly down...
                                        This is going to be the time consuming bit... unless someone writes a one-liner to pushpull alternate faces by -1mm and also alternate doing that in each 'row', so for any four sharing a vertex 0 and 2 are processed... [sdmitch??]

                                        TIG

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                                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                          jeff hammond
                                          last edited by

                                          ...

                                          this is the kind of stuff he's after.. grid distortions using point attractors and whatnot.. lots of this type of stuff going on these days..

                                          1.jpg

                                          2.jpg

                                          3.jpg

                                          dotdotdot

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                                          • gillesG Offline
                                            gilles
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            ...

                                            this is the kind of stuff he's after.. grid distortions using point attractors and whatnot.. lots of this type of stuff going on these days..

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                                            [attachment=1:30vh17hx]<!-- ia1 -->2.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:30vh17hx]

                                            [attachment=0:30vh17hx]<!-- ia0 -->3.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:30vh17hx]

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