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    • D Offline
      DOD3R
      last edited by

      Hi guys,
      Its possible to make it from same triangles?
      So it would be easier to prefabricate and construct (one triangular window)?

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      • yitzharY Offline
        yitzhar
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        i find out that the easy way was -

        draw the edges curves and than use this Extrude Edges by rail to lattice by Tig
        but this is if you only work with face and not circuls ..

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          DOD3R
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          could it be done with one component? for example I make some crazy geometry and than triangle component. Is there any way how, to make that geometry from one triangular component?

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
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            @dod3r said:

            could it be done with one component? for example I make some crazy geometry and than triangle component. Is there any way how, to make that geometry from one triangular component?

            • The vertical and horizontal cross-sections of the tower are all unique.

            • There is an asymmetric shape – no two rooms are the same. Every one of the 12,500 panes of glass on the façade is a different size, although each pane is triangular.

            • All 8,250 steel diagrid members are different thicknesses, length and orientation.

            more here:
            http://www.ctbuh.org/TallBuildings/FeaturedTallBuildings/CapitalGateTowerAbuDhabi/tabid/3380/language/en-GB/Default.aspx

            .

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            • yitzharY Offline
              yitzhar
              last edited by

              jaff so whats your way for modeling that ?

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                DOD3R
                last edited by

                LSS toolbar looks great, but didnt try it yet.

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  All 8,250 steel diagrid members are different thicknesses, length and orientation.

                  Jeff so whats your way for modeling that ?

                  I am affraid that you must draw one by one!
                  If you want make "a real copycat" of course 😄

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                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • yitzharY Offline
                    yitzhar
                    last edited by

                    the lss tools is great tool - i used it mixing it with the edges to rails -
                    the lss for making the floors and the panes and than i took the edges to rails plugin
                    to make the grid with glass on the curve faces.
                    and did it twice one from the bottom up and one from up to the bottom that way you getting
                    X SHAPES for the grid and not \ DIRECTION ...

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                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      Show us some images of results 😉

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • A Offline
                        altab
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        Show us some images of results 😉

                        I second that.

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
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                          @yitzhar said:

                          jaff so whats your way for modeling that ?

                          my way? i'd use rhino's paneling tools.. i mean, the paneling tools are made for this type of stuff.. why make life difficult by trying to do it in sketchup 😉

                          2 rail sweep to get a surface..

                          make a paneling grid..

                          populate the grid with shape of your choice..

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                            thomthom
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                            Rhino 5?

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
                              last edited by

                              @thomthom said:

                              Rhino 5?

                              yeah.. (there is no rhino 4 for mac.. and actually, there's no official rhino 5 on mac either 😉.. still a beta)

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                Or in Moment of Inspiration where you can project any volumes on an another tortured one! 💚

                                Here my little triangles are not all in the same plan
                                so the circular "side" is slighty offseted
                                flow1.jpg

                                Colors are randomized on each volume!
                                Of course each triangle is deformed following the form!
                                flow.jpg

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                                My Little site :)

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                                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                  jeff hammond
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Or in Moment of Inspiration where you can project any volumes on an another tortured one! 💚

                                  yeah.. that's the same as flow along a surface in rhino.. doing that (obviously) distorts the shape to match the surface (i.e.- they are no longer triangles.)

                                  paneling tools doesn't do that… in the drawing i posted above, all of the members of the triangles remain straight.. it's only the length & angles that change in order to fill the grid..

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    Yep, i must just rotate source(& size) and target on the good directions for have the same 😉

                                    PS Have you seen the little Conoïde membrane problem?
                                    It's for you! 😉

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                      jeff hammond
                                      last edited by

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      PS Have you seen the little Conoïde membrane problem?
                                      It's for you! 😉

                                      haha.. i haven't opened that thread yet.. and i better not -- i have some things to do today..
                                      ok.. maybe just a peek 😄

                                      [EDiT].. same thing for that as this.. the conoid membrane is literally a 30 second deal in rhino and that's how i would draw something like that.. since this is a sketchup forum, i'll refrain from posting "use rhino for this" in yet another thread.. 😆

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                                      • yitzharY Offline
                                        yitzhar
                                        last edited by

                                        this is something in progress ...
                                        the tall building isnt the same as i wanted to saw at dubai's picture
                                        but all in all this is the sample of the mixed plugin i used.

                                        p.s. about the last rhino issue ... i knew i can make it easier in rhino
                                        but im trying to chack sketchup limition 😄


                                        sample

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                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          distorts the shape to match the surface

                                          In fact you right! 😉
                                          I must find another trick 😳

                                          Something like LineWeb / Planar = gride paneling
                                          So my volume is "facettized", so the Flow function don't curvate the triangles! 😉

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
                                            last edited by

                                            @yitzhar said:

                                            p.s. about the last rhino issue ... i knew i can make it easier in rhino
                                            but im trying to chack sketchup limition 😄

                                            it's not that you can't draw this in sketchup (i mean, i've driven a nail with pliers before.. plenty of times 😉 )

                                            it's just that it's a fairly convoluted process to do it in sketchup and once you've drawn something, you're stuck with it.. and it's a whole lot of work to start over with this type of process until you get the proportions etc correct..

                                            in all reality, my sketchup approach would go something like this:

                                            pt.jpg

                                            1)- draw the main profile curves with a whole bunch of segments per curve (the vertical profiles have 500 segments in this example) (i'm using fredo's BezierSpline plugin for these curves).. group the curves..

                                            2)- array a plane to represent the floors... using the line tool, custom draw new profiles.. the vertices will occur at the intersection of each floor plane and the mega-segmented curves.. using BZ-convert to, change the top and bottom curves to the same amount of evenly spaced segments (i used 10 in this case)..

                                            3)- while this looks pretty much the same as step #1, it's not.. the profile curves are now set up to make a proper grid on this shape..

                                            4)- using CurviLoft's skinning function, set it to generate edges only... you now have a nice grid to place your panel profiles over..

                                            5)- (next image) -- use profile builder to manually populate the grid.. only 30+ more floors to go then mirror it 😉

                                            pb.jpg

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