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    • hellnbakH Offline
      hellnbak
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      @pbacot said:

      I like the changes! The side shots are the most impressive. Second form is less pinched and the windshield-door panel swoop more classic and fun. Only thing I noticed was the corvette-like tail lights are like a knock-off. But if that's what you want, it's your roadster.

      Thanks Peter. As far as the tail lights, I know nothing about corvettes, but if they are similar to them I'll take your word for it. I just wanted to keep it simple. The question is, do they detract from the overall design, and do you think the car as a whole would be better if I redesigned them?

      @pbacot said:

      Thing is it looks like it "could be". All the real modern car detail are there. Very real. I can't imagine how you come up with the scale and proportion... Got a vid?

      I just eyeball everything, seems to work most of the time. A video? No, sorry. My methods (if you can call it that) wouldn't lend themself very well to making a video, much too haphazard and unorganized.

      Again, thanks for your input.

      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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      • J Offline
        jpalm32
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        I would be stacking B Bs in a funny farm half way through.
        Always enjoy your stuff!

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        • hellnbakH Offline
          hellnbak
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          Did some work on the interior. New steering wheel, shifter handle, other small things. Texture on steering wheel spokes needs a lot of work yet, but I guess I'll just put this thing back on the shelf. Really hoped more people would offer criticisms and suggestions, maybe it's the old "if you can't say anything good....." πŸ˜’
          Interior.png
          Thanks to those of you who did provide input.

          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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          • daleD Offline
            dale
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            I don't know, when you look at that interior shot, it's pretty hard to criticize such a masterwork.
            I always find it hard to critique something that it would be a stretch for me to accomplish.
            If there is one thing I like better than your modeling, it's your sense of humour. Both classic. πŸ‘

            Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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            • hellnbakH Offline
              hellnbak
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              @dale said:

              I don't know, when you look at that interior shot, it's pretty hard to criticize such a masterwork.
              I always find it hard to critique something that it would be a stretch for me to accomplish.

              Thanks Dale. The main thing I need input on is what I've done to the exterior. I know that my imagination isn't that great, that's why I need to tap the imaginations of fellow modelers to see how I could do things better.

              @dale said:

              If there is one thing I like better than your modeling, it's your sense of humour. Both classic. πŸ‘

              My sense of humor has been called many things, but never "classic" πŸ˜†

              "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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              • Bryan KB Offline
                Bryan K
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                What Dale said.

                But I do have one little thing: the rear spoiler doesn't do it for me. Maybe the angle is too steep? But love the rest of the changes.

                See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                • Paul RussamP Offline
                  Paul Russam
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                  Personally I think the wheels are too big in diameter, slightly smaller with it riding slightly lower may look better. The only other thing that caught my eye was that the front turn indicators are inside of the headlights, I think (could be wrong) that they are required to be near the outer edge of the car.

                  Other than that its looking very good.

                  Paul Russam
                  English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark allies, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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                  • pbacotP Offline
                    pbacot
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                    That interior shot is great. That's a SU picture--I know you don't render? The texturing and modeling are so nice it goes most of the way to rendering. Could you show a wire frame overlay or hidden geometry of the dash?

                    that's why a video would be nice. I understand you also use few plugins. 😲

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                    • hellnbakH Offline
                      hellnbak
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                      WOW! Some input

                      @bryan k said:

                      What Dale said.

                      But I do have one little thing: the rear spoiler doesn't do it for me. Maybe the angle is too steep? But love the rest of the changes.

                      You're right, actually I just plucked the spoiler off the old version and stuck it on for visual reference. It's not modeled into the car and I meant to redo it but just forgot all about it. Thanks for reminding me.

                      @paul russam said:

                      Personally I think the wheels are too big in diameter, slightly smaller with it riding slightly lower may look better.

                      Hmmm....I'll have to think about that one. Now do you mean that car rides too high because the tires are too big, or that they are too big and the car rides too high?

                      @paul russam said:

                      The only other thing that caught my eye was that the front turn indicators are inside of the headlights, I think (could be wrong) that they are required to be near the outer edge of the car.

                      I Googled this and could not find any reference to the legal locations for turn signals, but you may be right. Actually I did try to put them outboard of the headlights in an early version, but didn't like the look at all
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                      What I may do is make the present turn signal a running light or something and move the actual turn signal towards the outside of the fender somewhere. I'll play with that idea, thanks.

                      @pbacot said:

                      That interior shot is great. That's a SU picture--I know you don't render? The texturing and modeling are so nice it goes most of the way to rendering. Could you show a wire frame overlay or hidden geometry of the dash?

                      Thanks for the kind words. For me working with textures is half the fun. Unfortunately it also increases the file size considerably.

                      Here's a wire frame, good luck making any sense of that explosion in a spaghetti factory 😲
                      3.png

                      and here's a hidden line. I hate to show my hidden lines, they show how hit and miss my modeling techniques are. It's like I told somebody earlier - "If God had intended my hidden lines to be shown he wouldn't have let me hide them in the first place"
                      2.png

                      @pbacot said:

                      I understand you also use few plugins. 😲

                      Yeah, not by choice tho. The best ones are just way too far above my learning curve. Frustrating, but I'll live with it πŸ˜„

                      Thanks again for all the comments and suggestions!

                      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
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                        What is the file size of such thing ? (Without texture if texture are existing)

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • pbacotP Offline
                          pbacot
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                          IDK about the lights. It's hard to say, because my mind goes "oh Corvette", it's the association to a muscle car on a roadster. But say the light cutouts had a more rounded edge? Of itself, I think it's cool the way it lets the other lines run about without interfering or adding too much.

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                          • hellnbakH Offline
                            hellnbak
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            What is the file size of such thing ? (Without texture if texture are existing)

                            Well, there are a bunch of textures, is there an easy way to remove all of them?

                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                            • hellnbakH Offline
                              hellnbak
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                              Your question got me to wondering so I manually deleted all the textures, then purged (using the plugin, not the built in purge).

                              With textures - 13.9mb
                              Without textures - 8.6mb

                              Sure looks funny without the textures 😲

                              "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                              • pbacotP Offline
                                pbacot
                                last edited by

                                uhuh, very educational. I see some areas are one face but it all flows smoothly.

                                I love that knob texture. Takes me back. The slider heater controls too.

                                If I can offer something constructive: The front part of the seat is the only distraction in the image (for me-but I couldn't touch it.)

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                                • J Offline
                                  jpalm32
                                  last edited by

                                  Love your stuff. It would be like stacking bee bees to me.
                                  I want to see some of your work renderd.
                                  Maybe parked in a old Texaco station, car-hop...

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    Thx for the Infos: that fixes ideas β˜€

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • hellnbakH Offline
                                      hellnbak
                                      last edited by

                                      @jpalm32 said:

                                      Love your stuff. It would be like stacking bee bees to me.
                                      I want to see some of your work renderd.
                                      Maybe parked in a old Texaco station, car-hop...

                                      Thanks very much. As far as rendering, I'm afraid that is completely beyond my capabilities.

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Thx for the Infos

                                      No problem

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      : that fixes ideas β˜€

                                      Ummm...not sure what that means, but glad I could help

                                      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                      • Rich O BrienR Online
                                        Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                        nice modeling

                                        but I wouldn't buy/drive or be seen in one.

                                        The interior is very well done. Only onr crit. You put the steering wheel on the wrong side

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                                        • hellnbakH Offline
                                          hellnbak
                                          last edited by

                                          @pbacot said:

                                          uhuh, very educational. I see some areas are one face but it all flows smoothly.

                                          I love that knob texture. Takes me back. The slider heater controls too.

                                          If I can offer something constructive: The front part of the seat is the only distraction in the image (for me-but I couldn't touch it.)

                                          Not sure what you mean, are you saying that I should have hidden the seat before taking the shot?

                                          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                          • hellnbakH Offline
                                            hellnbak
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                                            @rich o brien said:

                                            nice modeling

                                            but I wouldn't buy/drive or be seen in one.

                                            Wow, so you're saying the modeling is nice but you don't care for the design? Personally it's not something I would buy either, just wanted to see if I could come up with an idea for some sort of roadster. It was an interesting exercise and I learned a lot from it, but I'm just sticking to my classics now.

                                            @rich o brien said:

                                            The interior is very well done. Only onr crti. You put the steering wheel on the wrong side

                                            Dang, didn't even notice that 😳
                                            This better?
                                            2.png

                                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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