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  • P Offline
    pilou
    last edited by 18 Jul 2012, 19:58

    @unknownuser said:

    I moved 1 end vertex in at varying angles.

    But like this your surface result is not the same ? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    With my method you keep the same surface!
    Absolutly no idea why this not works for you ?
    I tested on V7, on V6 (all with the divided segment)

    But work also if I draw this triangle ๐Ÿ˜‰
    Very curious ๐Ÿ˜„
    segment_by_ hand.jpg

    Frenchy Pilou
    Is beautiful that please without concept!
    My Little site :)

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      pbacot
      last edited by 19 Jul 2012, 00:16

      JG,
      This is a symmetrical shape and it's interesting that it skins quite well if a line is added at the center. I prefer to divide the end and center line for more subdivisions, but I don't really know if that is helpful. I often find that a shape works better (or at all) in Curviloft with a line or curve added across the center area. But I could use a full course on CL. I am usually shooting in the dark and can understand the purpose to few of the features, myself.

      I couldn't get it to skin otherwise, nor follow Rich's procedure. Other curve arrangements would light up and I never got a setup as he shows. [edit: now I see what he did, but I don't know how he knew to do it--and the shape just skinned without me designating any edges--after adding edges at the ends of the shape]

      Regards, Peter


      Curviloft Problem.png

      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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        jgb
        last edited by 19 Jul 2012, 13:21

        Pbacot; I did not try segmenting a line because CL does too much segmentation at best, most of which I end up tweaking out (as I mentioned above) to reduce the line count and surface complexity. Here I just needed a "flat" surface quickly, as a temporary separate group while I did some work behind it.

        When it refused to surface I did it manually (triangulating the vertices) as I had no time then to play. Later I extracted the perimeter to see what was wrong, which led to my post.

        My supposition about 2 or more acute angles may be wrong after thinking about it and later I will try a few edits to prove me right or wrong.


        jgb

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          Rich O Brien Moderator
          last edited by 19 Jul 2012, 14:12

          @Joel

          Try watching this...

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          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp

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            Dave R
            last edited by 19 Jul 2012, 14:43

            Rich, that explains it very well. Thanks from me even though I wasn't having any problem with it.

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              fredo6
              last edited by 19 Jul 2012, 19:32

              @jgb

              Curviloft works with 4 contours (what is called a coon).
              When you have a single continuous contour, you need to define these 4 contours. As highlighted by Rich, one simple way to tell Curviloft is to put Break points, with small open segments. Then, you can Select All and proceed with Skinning.

              Jgb Curviloft Problem.gif

              Fredo

              PS1: another way is to use the Edge by Edge selection, and press Return between each of the 4 contours.

              PS2: colors have no special meaning except to differentiate the selected contours

              PS3: error handling is not complete yet. This is why the plugin is still in Beta

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                pilou
                last edited by 19 Jul 2012, 21:27

                Aaah OK ! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                All is clear now! ๐Ÿ’š ๐Ÿ‘

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                  ivreich
                  last edited by 20 Jul 2012, 05:00

                  How to soft/hide diagonals only??

                  How does one generate a lofted surface with only the diagonals soft/hidden? This is useful if you want to use the loop/ring selection tools that come natively with thomthom's Quadfacetools...

                  Currently you have to do it manually, generating two sets of intermediate profiles (in both U and V directions) and merging it with the quadface surface.

                  joel


                  Soft/Hidden diagonals only. Useful when selecting loops+rings using QuadFaceTools.

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 20 Jul 2012, 08:09

                    Have you the Skp (V6) ?

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                      thomthom
                      last edited by 20 Jul 2012, 09:44

                      @ivreich said:

                      How does one generate a lofted surface with only the diagonals soft/hidden? This is useful if you want to use the loop/ring selection tools that come natively with thomthom's Quadfacetools...

                      CurviLoft can generate Quad meshes for you if you just enable the option:
                      GenerateQuads.png

                      It generates smooth meshes though, so if you want the grid type you have in your screenshot you need to use QuadFace Tools to unsmooth the CurviLoft surface.

                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                        jgb
                        last edited by 20 Jul 2012, 13:30

                        @rich o brien said:

                        @Joel

                        Try watching this...

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                        Ah IZ simply blown away by this..

                        I tried segmenting at the same corners, but it didn't work for me, and now I know why. But this and TT's explanation to Ivreich and Fredos "How-to" reply opened my eyes to why I found CL a bit unresponsive to many of my skinning attempts.

                        Simply a lack of a basic tutorial for Curviloft left me without the tools needed to use CL effectively.

                        Fredo, that really needs to be addressed. โ— CL is NOT a simple intuitive tool to use.


                        jgb

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                          jgb
                          last edited by 20 Jul 2012, 14:53

                          Fredo; That explanation really opened my eyes. I NEVER knew the toolbar functions were only active in "blackface". I thought they were presets, and that is why it never worked for me.

                          One question though, when you added the 4 breakpoints (as also shown by Rich) it skinned when you selected all. This object is an extract from a drawing that had lines emanating straight up/down from each point, effectively each being a breakpoint. Many times in the past, if I had an extraneous line or fragmet in the perimeter selection, CL would go RED and not skin till the line was removed. Yet here you show they are included. When I tried this with the original model (a sink base) selecting 4 lines as breakpoints, again nothing happened.

                          Here is a series of screenshots of what happened.

                          Overall view of the sink, with the problem area in the base highlighted.
                          Overall view of model.

                          And a closeup....
                          Closeup (cropped) of the problem area.  The skin was manually created.

                          Skin area removed to redo solution.
                          Skin removed.

                          Perimeter only selected. No skinning. ๐Ÿ‘Ž
                          Perimeter only selected.  CL would not skin.

                          Added 4 breakpoint lines to perimeter selection. Again, no skinning. ๐Ÿ‘Ž
                          Added 4 breakpoint line to perimeter selection.  CL would not skin.

                          Selected 3 lines using CL Select, and
                          Curviloft selection of 3 line sets.

                          VOILA, a skin. ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘
                          THAT worked!!!

                          So now I know a whole lot more about Curviloft, but my question now is why did my selection of breakpoint lines NOT work, but worked for you, and not cause an error with CL โ“ โ“


                          jgb

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                            fredo6
                            last edited by 20 Jul 2012, 22:01

                            @jgb
                            It depends on your settings in the button palette

                            • the mode of selection (Follow <-->)
                            • the Break at Crossing button must be ON
                              The small segments must also be 'plain' edges.

                            Anyway, selecting each of the 3 or 4 contours is a good method too.

                            Fredo

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                              Rich O Brien Moderator
                              last edited by 20 Jul 2012, 22:40

                              @unknownuser said:

                              I have always thhought that this piece was a part of a secret space rocket due the warning text inserted ๐Ÿ˜„

                              ๐Ÿ˜†

                              Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp

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                                pilou
                                last edited by 20 Jul 2012, 22:43

                                I have always thought that this piece was a part of a secret space rocket due the warning text inserted ๐Ÿ˜„

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  jgb
                                  last edited by 21 Jul 2012, 21:06

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  I have always thought that this piece was a part of a secret space rocket due the warning text inserted ๐Ÿ˜„

                                  The sink goes in the rocket cabin. ๐Ÿคฃ

                                  And I thought I was being clever at hiding its purpose by just extracting the problem part. โ˜€


                                  jgb

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                                    redmaya
                                    last edited by 22 Jul 2012, 08:54

                                    i cant install... i followed the instruction.. i opened then extracted to plugin...

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                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by 22 Jul 2012, 09:40

                                      You have to give more than that for us to help you. ๐Ÿ˜’

                                      Go back and reread the instructions. Do you have administrative permission to install files into Plugins? Did you get LibFredo 4.6 and install it? Did you maintain the footprint of the files when installing it? What happens exactly when you try to install it? What happens exactly when you open SketchUp after installing it?

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                                        redmaya
                                        last edited by 22 Jul 2012, 13:17

                                        cant install libfredo... when i extract.. it says denied access.....
                                        first i open it in winrar... then copy and paste libfredo6..rb and libfredo_dir_46 into googlesketchup plugin... then extract in winrar in the same location,,,, access denied

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                                          Dave R
                                          last edited by 22 Jul 2012, 13:24

                                          You need to set up administrative rights to add files to the Plugins folder. This is one of the joys of Windows 7.

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