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    • irwanwrI Offline
      irwanwr
      last edited by

      I just realised that this plugin put components into a model right away after sketchup started.
      Does it meant to work that way?
      Found Ivy's components in the comp browser when I check it. After seeing how a door model file size became around more than 1 MB.

      Still learning to use this plugin.
      Thank you Pierre

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      • bigstickB Offline
        bigstick
        last edited by

        Yeah, it's not really ready for general use yet because there are far too many anomalies. The inserting leaves into every model is one example, which causes problems with other plugins.

        I really don't intend any criticism of Pierreden (because he's been kind enough to share the results of huge amounts of work with us for free) because this plugin is almost spectacular, and we all owe him thanks for his time and generosity.

        I've tried for a long time to try to work out what the problem is, but I have failed to make it work. I don't have the time or need for the results to devote any more time to making it work, and if it requires hours of effort for at least some people, something doesn't seem quite right.

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          tomot
          last edited by

          How Sad! the last time I used this Ivy generator all was well, I even recall posting a set of alternative IVY leaves, I don't know whats happened since. Perhaps the latest release of SU is at fault.

          1. trying to open any of the 3 Ivyleaf files Ivyleaf_1.skp, Ivyleaf_2.skp, Ivyleaf_3.skp causes an instant SU Bugsplat!
          2. opening the Ruby Console, run the Ivy generator and a list of errors scrolls by.
          3. the stem is not created!
          4. the leaves do not get attached!

          Argh!

          [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
          tomot

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            tpskinner
            last edited by

            Hey guys...

            Ive been trying to go through all the posts and I realise that theres been some issues with MAC but some seem to have got it to work...

            Ive got SU8... I unpacked the 0.6.3 RAR file and put the files into my plugins folder. I can open the Ivy window with all the various options... but when I click on the model nothing happens. Ive tried various clicks and alt clicks cmd clicks... but nothing. There are no error messages, just nothing happens.

            Any ideas?

            Thanks!
            Tim

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            • OxerO Offline
              Oxer
              last edited by

              @tpskinner said:

              Hey guys...

              Ive been trying to go through all the posts and I realise that theres been some issues with MAC but some seem to have got it to work...

              Ive got SU8... I unpacked the 0.6.3 RAR file and put the files into my plugins folder. I can open the Ivy window with all the various options... but when I click on the model nothing happens. Ive tried various clicks and alt clicks cmd clicks... but nothing. There are no error messages, just nothing happens.

              Any ideas?

              Thanks!
              Tim

              Hi Tim, i use Mac too see this http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=36882&start=330 the las post.

              "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
              [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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                tpskinner
                last edited by

                Hey guys...

                Still can't get this plugin to work... Im on Mac, SU8 and using 0.6.3 Ivy.

                I can successfully open the parameters dialogue box and move sliders etc... However, this is all I can do. Clicking on my model does nothing, CMD clicking does nothing etc.

                any ideas?

                Thanks,
                Tim

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                • C Offline
                  Cyberdactyl
                  last edited by

                  Been enjoying the plugin a lot. Thank you very much Pierreden.

                  I've read through this massive thread and understand why half the leaves have the white background. But I'm curious why some leaves have a transparent square for the textures behind, yet has an edge that sees completely through a copy of the same texture?!

                  Is there any more versions of this going to be released? I see it hasn't been worked on in 10 months.

                  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Cyberdactyl/SketchUp/leaves.jpg

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                  • A Offline
                    arqmiguelc
                    last edited by

                    i fkn love you! great work although i had to modify the leaves components in order to have transparency on my leaf backround, but it works really fine!

                    One more question, when are you planning to pull up a new version of the plug in? you should spread this worldwide, it is a fantastic idea.

                    greetings from mexico.

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                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                      Krisidious
                      last edited by

                      can we see some people's settings for certain types of results and can we see the default settings?

                      By: Kristoff Rand
                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                        Krisidious
                        last edited by

                        I had to resave each of the leaves as a new sketchup file with the original name. I also saved them using png textures that I saved into the same textures folder so I could have transparency.

                        this fixed the issue of the vine not producing leaves or branches.

                        here are the default settings if you mess them up and can't find your way back.

                        suivy default.jpg

                        suivy default1.jpg

                        By: Kristoff Rand
                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                        • J Offline
                          jellybean2012
                          last edited by

                          Hi
                          I hope you can help because your render looks awesome - I've installed it and followed your instructions which all seem to work perfectly - however, when I try and render it in vRay it's not visible -- it's like it doesn't exist...

                          am i just being thick?

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Can v-ray render 'images' inside a SKP ?
                            Some renderers can't.
                            Perhaps they need exploding ??

                            TIG

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                            • KrisidiousK Offline
                              Krisidious
                              last edited by

                              I have no idea about that... sorry.

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              • KrisidiousK Offline
                                Krisidious
                                last edited by

                                love this plugin... still trying to get the hang of it. I don't seem to get consistent results. like adhesion doesn't seem to really make the vine adhere as it does make it grow shorter distances with each click.

                                Horizon_3D_005.jpg

                                By: Kristoff Rand
                                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                  tomot
                                  last edited by

                                  @krisidious said:

                                  I don't seem to get consistent results. like adhesion doesn't seem to really make the vine adhere as it does make it grow shorter distances with each click.

                                  This Ivy generator is a got attempt at copying Thomas Luft's Ivy generator , but still has some minor problems such as collision detection which the SketchUp API may not not contain. 😞

                                  [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
                                  tomot

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                                    the.pjt
                                    last edited by

                                    is it possible to change the SKP files located in the Plugins\LiveIvy\Textures and replace its JPEG textures with PNGs ?
                                    so this plugin could results transparent textured leafs ...
                                    because now we should change textures every time

                                    can I do it ? ...or ... will the plugin make bad results ?? longer time ??

                                    thanks ... 😉

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                                    • rodrigonotorR Offline
                                      rodrigonotor
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Pj, is not problem change the files, only make shure you put the same names for components.

                                      http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3357/20052011070953pm.jpg

                                      http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/6654/20052011075532pm.jpg

                                      You can use the *.png file inside the leaf component.

                                      Here are the leaf component I use.

                                      ivy_leaf_enavas.rar

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                                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                                        Krisidious
                                        last edited by

                                        @the.pjt said:

                                        is it possible to change the SKP files located in the Plugins\LiveIvy\Textures and replace its JPEG textures with PNGs ?
                                        so this plugin could results transparent textured leafs ...
                                        because now we should change textures every time

                                        can I do it ? ...or ... will the plugin make bad results ?? longer time ??

                                        thanks ... 😉

                                        yes you can... that's what I did to allow transparency.

                                        By: Kristoff Rand
                                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                          the.pjt
                                          last edited by

                                          thanks ..

                                          so I have another question .. why Pierreden (author) have used JPG textures in Plugins\LiveIvy\Textures ? he could use PNGs ... couldn't he ? ...

                                          I'm going to change components in the directory (Plugins\LiveIvy\Textures) .. 😄

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                                          • bigstickB Offline
                                            bigstick
                                            last edited by

                                            This still doesn't work on the Mac. In case anyone is tempted to try the updated version in the hope that it will work on the Mac, nope. Not for me, and after all the posts so far, I'm not the only one having trouble with this. This updated version doesn't actually fix anything as far as I can see.

                                            To summarise:-

                                            The dialog works. This latest version has the default values as krisidious shows in his post. I'm grateful for this, it was one of the things I thought that might be the cause of the plugin not working. However, the ivy will still not 'grow'.
                                            Also the problem where this plugin inserts the leaf components into every single model still persists. This is a bug in my opinion.

                                            I'm guessing that it's bad etiquette to modify someone else's plugin, but I really wish someone would fix these issues. It's one I have been itching to use for a long time, and it's still frustrating that it almost works.

                                            I haven't seen anything from Pierreden for some time, but surely he wouldn't mind someone else fixing this...

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