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    brookefox
    last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 19:06

    Great tips for even experienced users. And as TIG says the quickest way to solve this is to post the model or even a small piece of it so it can be examined in detail. Some us live to find 'bugs', but are faced instead with the frustration and relief provided by the 'real' model.

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    ~ Brooke

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      IrishSnow35
      last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 19:51

      Here's the SKP file... The more intricate part in the right hand part of the freestanding model is the one that is troublesome. Thanks for the offer of help!

      Also, another question: Are newbies the only ones restricted to having posts approved by mods, or is that for everyone, and if it's the former, how many posts do I need to be free of such a restriction?

      Thanks, and God bless!

      Izzy


      Calvary-IrishSnow35.skp

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        brookefox
        last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 20:18

        So far it does look like the larger face should be divided up into smaller ones, as you suspect. This is a sometimes frustration of SU for which there are plugins and workarounds: project onto face, create face, etc. Do a search for these. Create face would make them for selected edges. The face selected is the 'only' problem for you? plan prob-2.JPG

        A simple intersect with selection yields some fixing, as was suggested. In fact, I think it solved most of your problem.plan prob-3.JPG

        How to close any face in Sketchup:
        http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=21666

        ~ Brooke

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          IrishSnow35
          last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 20:34

          @brookefox

          Yes, that's the only face that's being a pain. Thank you so much for helping and fixing it as you did.

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            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 21:14

            Is what you are modeling really 2 million inches long?

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              TIG Moderator
              last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 21:15

              If you change your Style [temporarily] so that you see End-points and Profiles are much thicker than other edges, then you can see the issues much easier.

              Incidentally, Sketchup has trouble making faces for very tiny geometry AND for very large geometry too.
              Your model is more than 100x over-sized. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
              If you use the tapemeasure tool and pick the two points on the drawn scale on the image you'll see it's say something like 51000' when it should be 500'...
              To fix it immediately type 500'+<enter> and when asked say Yes and the whole model will rescale to suit.
              It will then be approximately the correct size.
              You may then find that faces form more readily... ๐Ÿ˜•

              TIG

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                IrishSnow35
                last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 00:08

                @unknownuser said:

                Is what you are modeling really 2 million inches long?

                Well I am modeling Jerusalem, Golgotha and Calvary at the time of Jesus' crucifixion. And I know, I should've started smaller. XD

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                  brookefox
                  last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 01:59

                  But is the model out of scale by a factor approaching 10? If the quick solution also fixes the accuracy then by that method you win and win again.

                  ~ Brooke

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                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 10:33

                    If you use the tapemeasure tool and pick two points on the written/drawn-scale [seen in the image] it says 500' BUT its modeled at well over 100x times that.
                    The site is big already... BUT making it that much bigger will probably raise issues with face forming that you don't need, and can easily avoid.
                    As explained before... use the tapemeasure tool and click two points that ought to be 500' apart on the written/drawn-scale, immediately type in 500'+<enter> and answer Yes to rescale the whole model to be more exactly sized. Recheck the written/drawn-scale with the tapemeasure and two picked points, it should now report at ~500', readjust as appropriate...
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                    TIG

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                      jgb
                      last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 15:54

                      @irishsnow35 said:

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Is what you are modeling really 2 million inches long?

                      Well I am modeling Jerusalem, Golgotha and Calvary at the time of Jesus' crucifixion. And I know, I should've started smaller. XD

                      In my experience, I always draw the model in true 1:1 scale, with very few exceptions.

                      Because SU has problems with tiny lines, especially when intersecting 2 curved objects, some people draw at 10X scale, or so. This creates perception problems when using dimensions, or merging different models or from component libraries.

                      So when I encounter a situation where 1:1 scale will create problems, (or did create so I use UNDO a lot!!), I make a component of the problem and make a copy away from the model area.
                      I then scale up that copy outside the bounding box, which does not affect the model.

                      I can then edit or intersect within the copy, and see/make corrections far easier than if I were working at true scale.

                      After the edit I delete the scaled copy.


                      jgb

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