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  • G Offline
    gascat
    last edited by 21 Apr 2012, 04:18

    Hi,
    is there a plugin available that will fill a shape with a selected group or shape and trim it to the shape?

    I want to fill shaped roof areas with a roof tile I have modeled. I know I can create an area of these tiles and do an intersect with the roof shape but a plugin would make the process a whole lot easier.

    I am using Sketchup V7

    cheers...Wayne

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    • G Offline
      gascat
      last edited by 22 Apr 2012, 10:00

      ok, maybe I could re-word this as I could do this another way.

      Is there a plugin that acts like a "Cookie Cutter"? (I have searched the forum but I cannot find one.

      I need to cookie cut a shape into a group of tiles I have modeled.
      I downloaded Sketchup Pro 8 trial and cannot get Solid Tools to do this.

      Hope someone can help.

      cheers...Wayne

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        TIG Moderator
        last edited by 22 Apr 2012, 10:26

        The Pro-way... The penetrated 'slab' group shown has only a slight 'curvature' - but any flat OR shaped 'solid' group can be punched by this method...


        CutterCutter[Pro].PNG

        TIG

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        • G Offline
          gascat
          last edited by 25 Apr 2012, 11:27

          Thanks for your reply TIG.
          That is not really what I am trying to achieve.

          I have attached some images to explain a bit clearer what I need a plugin to do.

          Basically I want to take a shaped roof section and stamp it over a bunch of tiles (objects) that I have created and copied multiple times to cover the area.
          Carrying out this process using 'Intersect with selected' in V7 is ok but time consuming and takes forever.
          Carrying this out in V8 takes as long maybe even longer and results in a bug splat most times.

          If a ruby could project the outline of the roof shape down onto the tiles to be cut to the shape (and not affect or explode any other tiles) I am sure this would be less system resources on the PC and Sketchup..... A bit like a laser cutter I suppose - and not having to explode all the tiles?

          Cheers...Wayne

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          • T Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by 25 Apr 2012, 11:29

            Your images doesn't show up.

            You know you can upload pictures to your post when you write them, right? (There is an "upload attachment" tab under the textbox.)

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • R Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator
              last edited by 25 Apr 2012, 11:35

              Edited post to show images

              Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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              • G Offline
                gascat
                last edited by 25 Apr 2012, 11:38

                Thanks for fixing that Rich. πŸ˜„

                Sorry Thomas.....I clean missed the upload tab. Now I see it!

                cheers...Wayne

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                • P Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by 25 Apr 2012, 11:48

                  Zorro 2 + CTRL and the objects will be cut! πŸ˜‰
                  Problem with components: all will be change as soon as you cut one! πŸ€“
                  So first make Unique the components to cut! (I don't know if a plug exist for make unique a selection of components: maybe yes)
                  yes Make unique Selected components (or goups) by the regreated Honolulu

                  No problem if it's groups β˜€

                  Is that you want ?

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • G Offline
                    gascat
                    last edited by 25 Apr 2012, 12:33

                    Yes Pilou, this works nice if I explode everything first.
                    I cant get the CTL function to cut through grouped objects. I have no components so that is not the problem.

                    This plugin would be even more sensational if I could place a shape over what I want to cut and click on it to activate the cut but I am grateful that it exists and that people take the time to write these ruby's for the Skethcup community.

                    Thanks for the suggestion as I didn't know this existed.

                    cheers...Wayne

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                    • R Offline
                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                      last edited by 25 Apr 2012, 13:06

                      There is a plugin that does that but I can't think of it's name. It's commercial and now my head is wrecked trying to think of it.

                      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                      • D Offline
                        d12dozr
                        last edited by 25 Apr 2012, 16:20

                        Instant Roof

                        Here's a PDF showing what I think you want: http://www.valiarchitects.com/sketchup_scripts/instant-roof

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                        • G Offline
                          gascat
                          last edited by 26 Apr 2012, 10:26

                          Instant Roof is quite amazing!
                          I use 1001bit Pro to create my roof shape then manually build tiles. It also does metal custom orb beautifully.

                          Instant roof is a must have by the look of it but it doesn't solve my "applying" individual tiles to a shaped surface. If I could use one of my tiles that I modeled then it would work for me.
                          My tiles are slightly sloped so when they are laid, you can actually see the step in each row (see attached)

                          cheers...Wayne


                          Modeled Tile.jpg


                          Modeled Tiled shaped roof area.jpg

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                            d12dozr
                            last edited by 26 Apr 2012, 15:43

                            I see what you mean. I think Instant Roof is the nearest tool readily available to what you want. Just be aware that a plugin creating numerous unique components (such as the ones trimmed to make the edge of a roof) will make your model geometry skyrocket and performance plummet, so such a tool may not be as useful as it sounds.

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                            • G Offline
                              gascat
                              last edited by 27 Apr 2012, 02:07

                              Guess I will stick to the manual method of cookie cutting.gh Zorro is working out ok at the moment so I'll keep using it and maybe less of 'Intersect with Selected'

                              cheers...Wayne

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                              • J Offline
                                jolran
                                last edited by 27 Apr 2012, 15:35

                                When you say fit onto a shape, do you mean surface or single face?

                                If it's a single face you are working with, then I have been experimenting with a tiling-feature in "Hatchfaces" that will allow you to fit 3d components to a single face(like the picture of your roof tiles). It works "ok", and I do think of implementing it into the plugin whenever I can get the time to work on the damned thing (current house renovation takes all my time πŸ˜„ )

                                If you don't feel like waiting, anyone trying to turn this into a plugin better be aware that it may not be a very practical feature. If the tiling geometry is dense the computation will be VERY slow. Also doing booleans it's a bit tricky to get the face normals pointing in the right direction sometimes.
                                But If geometry is kept simple it can be functionable. And still better than modeling it by hand.

                                I think the problems regarding a plugin like this has been discussed before by TIG and others...

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                                • B Offline
                                  brookefox
                                  last edited by 27 Apr 2012, 16:42

                                  @jolran said:

                                  "Hatchfaces"
                                  If you don't feel like waiting, anyone trying to turn this into a plugin

                                  I thought you were saying we could try your plugin if we wanted to risk it...

                                  Where is it, if so?

                                  If not we will continue to be very, very patient. I once took three years to renovate a small house and it really wasn't very tricky. My bad, not yours.
                                  πŸ˜„

                                  ~ Brooke

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                                    jolran
                                    last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 15:44

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    I thought you were saying we could try your plugin if we wanted to risk it...

                                    If you are referring to Hatchfaces? I think I said I might release a lighter version without some of the experimental features to speed up the release-date. If it sounded like something else, I apologize. It will come, it will come πŸ˜„

                                    The point I was trying to make regarding this topic is that "Fill a shaped surface with a modeled object" is fully doable. But it will be very compute-intense, in fact so slow that it might not be usable unless dealing with sparse geometry.

                                    I have been playing with that function. But it's shaky stuff 😳

                                    I think this issue has been discussed before by TIG and others.

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                                    • G Offline
                                      gascat
                                      last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 09:49

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      When you say fit onto a shape, do you mean surface or single face?

                                      I figure it is a single face that could be in various shapes.
                                      I would be keen to look at what you have.

                                      cheers...Wayne

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