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    EarthMover
    last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:07

    I remember also, just can't seem to find it.

    Actually support for adjoining faces which are not coplanar would be preferable.

    I would like to add groves to something like the following -

    Edge 2 Groove test model.jpg

    Edge 2 Groove test model2.jpg


    Edge 2 Groove test model.skp

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      EarthMover
      last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:08

      @unknownuser said:

      @unknownuser said:

      Sorry Pilou...don't have V6 installed anymore.

      Last V8 don't permit Save as V6 ? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

      The viewer V8 don't work on my old computer! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

      Sorry Pilou, I misunderstood. I updated the test model saved as V6.

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        pilou
        last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:33

        No Problem ๐Ÿ˜‰
        Many Thanks !
        In therory if the there no special element like DC or other news it's better to save in V6 ๐Ÿ˜„
        As like, V6, V7, V8 users can reload it ๐Ÿ˜‰

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          Rich O Brien Moderator
          last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:35

          @Pilou

          Do you have v8 installed? Surely you must... ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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            sdmitch
            last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:45

            In my plugin, the top groove is not a problem. But the side grooves either cross or diverge when pushpulled due to the faces not being coplanar.

            Grooves.png

            as the image shows.

            Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

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              pilou
              last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:45

              Yes but on other computer
              I have this old one (ten years) for test some programs for old configs for some coders ๐Ÿ˜„

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                pilou
                last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 23:13

                @ EarthMover
                Why your model has no bottom faces?
                That will not solids! So possibilitiy to use boolean operation will be forbidden!

                Frenchy Pilou
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                  pilou
                  last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 23:29

                  So the plug is not optimized ๐Ÿ˜‰
                  Keep the good work! ๐Ÿ‘
                  I have not yet found a super trick with plugs existing ๐Ÿ˜ž
                  It's not very easy to select only the section between "elements" for some tricky actions ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                  And carreful here you have quadrangular sections, but your plug must work with any polygonal "sections" ! ๐Ÿค“
                  So regular PushPull will not work!

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 23:32

                    Curiously the Select Lines by Length By Chris Fulmer don't work with your object ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 10:08

                      As sdmitch has found, doing it programmatically is fraught with challenges...


                      Capture.PNG

                      TIG

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                        pilou
                        last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 13:05

                        like this ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        Red and Green prism volumes are equal
                        Groove is constant
                        Click for all image
                        Kill_Add.jpg

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                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 13:47

                          That only works for parallel faced boxes - it won't work if it has non-parallel facets or only some faces are to be grooved... ๐Ÿ˜’

                          TIG

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 13:53

                            That is the case of the EartMover example asked
                            Just angle change between elements so the prism will be not always the same

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                              EarthMover
                              last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 14:04

                              @unknownuser said:

                              @ EarthMover
                              Why your model has no bottom faces?
                              That will not solids! So possibilitiy to use boolean operation will be forbidden!

                              Sorry Pilou, I forgot I deleted the bottom faces while playing with Profile Builder. Forgot to add them back. If you close the bottom face, you can add the edges back using "Split Sausage".

                              The shape was made by drawing 2 curves, then using BZ Convert to Polyline Divider to regulate the segments. (Or SDMitch's EqSegCurve would work) I think I then used Extrude Edges by Vector in the Z direction and JPP to add volume. (Or you could go Extrude Edges by Offset, JPP) Thus maintaining the segments throughout the process.

                              Not sure why select edges by length doesn't work for you. Quad Face tools, select loops and rings should work fine as it's all quads. Also , with Selection Toys > Selected Quad Face Loops to select the faces in loop. Also easy to drag select all and Selection Toys > Select only edges or faces.

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                                EarthMover
                                last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 14:25

                                @tig said:

                                As sdmitch has found, doing it programmatically is fraught with challenges...

                                I see. The distance changes between the perpendicular offsets. I guess ideally would be to move the offset edges via their verticies, essentially moving four verts and connecting them, instead of four edges and trying to align them. Of course I have no idea if this is possible, just thinking out loud!

                                What if the top and sides were run with separate operations? Or if corners were restricted to only 90 degrees? My example is a bit extreme for most users who would need a tool like this. Things like furniture, buildings and other wood structures are typically square. I do a lot curved step treads, curved knee walls, pool copings, brick banding, arches, etc. However, what I do might be too generalized for what would benefit the masses. I just don't want to put my needs ahead of others.

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                                  massimo Moderator
                                  last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 14:46

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  What is the "Split Sausage" function

                                  http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=386610#p386610

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 15:55

                                    Many thanks : An another one that I had missed when i was absent ๐Ÿ‘

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 15:57

                                      What is the "Split Sausage" function and where i can find it ?

                                      No problem for push the top and botton face with normal PushPull

                                      Joint Push Pull don't make these vertical faces Pushed
                                      The Smart Puspull make the good internal Push face alas it don't make the erasing!

                                      smart.jpg

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                                        pilou
                                        last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 17:02

                                        Seems easy ๐Ÿ˜„
                                        Just code the repeat process โ˜€

                                        Push.jpg

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                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 18:04

                                          Pilou... you faked the image !
                                          Tinker!


                                          Capture.PNG

                                          TIG

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