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    • mitcorbM Offline
      mitcorb
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      Hi.
      Have you looked at the tutorials on KT's Forum? There is a pdf for getting started and in it I believe lighting is discussed. You may want to use SU2KT plugin to facilitate export for rendering.

      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
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        You might want to look at creating 3D PDFs from your work, that way they are viewable as SU models but you aren't giving the model itself away.

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        • hellnbakH Offline
          hellnbak
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          Just received an email in response to my complaint --

          *Hi Stephen,

          Thank you for contacting us. Can you provide some screenshots or other proof of your ownership of these items? Once we have that information from you, we can investigate on our end with the brokered artist.

          Kind regards,
          ChristieK*

          I sent her about a dozen screenshots of the cars in various stages of development. Now I wait.

          Mitcorb, yes, I have downloaded every KT tutorial I could find, and also bought and studied the book SketchUp 7.1 for Architectural Visualization: Beginner's Guide, which uses KT for all of it's renderings. I think I'm just too old to figure out all the why's and wherefore's of something new ๐Ÿ˜†Same reason I can't seem to figure out all the plugins I should be using but can't.

          Box, I have seen some 3D PDF's, and while they are better than just photos, they still can't come close to the real 3D model. But thanks for the suggestion.

          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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          • TIGT Online
            TIG Moderator
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            Don't forget that you already posted it here too, with dated posts/images [as independent proof] AND their broker Gil also names you as the main author in his notes anyway !

            TIG

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            • oganocaliO Offline
              oganocali
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              Here http://creativecommons.org/is a good resource related with the matter at hand. Following the links provide lots of reading and thinking material... Disclaimer: from this point on it is only my opinion and I may be wrong. 3D warehouse license term is like CC0 (you give away every right yet you retain the copyright (not very meaningful)), except CC0 disallows the derivative work to be DRM'ed (digital rights managed), 3d warehouse is even more liberal, does not have anti DRM restriction.

              @hellnbak: I do hope that you scare those guys out of distributing your work. For high octane modelers like you, I think a sketchup model dissemination website where the uploader can choose one of the 6 creative commons licenses, is needed. I am still waiting for one of my models to be stolen, no such luck.

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              • hellnbakH Offline
                hellnbak
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                @oganocali said:

                Here http://creativecommons.org/is a good resource related with the matter at hand. Following the links provide lots of reading and thinking material... Disclaimer: from this point on it is only my opinion and I may be wrong. 3D warehouse license term is like CC0 (you give away every right yet you retain the copyright (not very meaningful)), except CC0 disallows the derivative work to be DRM'ed (digital rights managed), 3d warehouse is even more liberal, does not have anti DRM restriction.

                @hellnbak: I do hope that you scare those guys out of distributing your work. For high octane modelers like you, I think a sketchup model dissemination website where the uploader can choose one of the 6 creative commons licenses, is needed. I am still waiting for one of my models to be stolen, no such luck.

                That is an interesting site, not sure I understand it all. I don't think I want to get into "licensing" my models, I just want to share them with fellow SU modelers. It's getting to the point where almost everything on the web is rife with complications and deviousness and hidden agendas, for me it's really not as much fun as it used to be. Seems like I spend half my time maintaining my safety and security apps, and even then I know I can be hit with something devastating at any minute. Where did the fun go?

                Me, a "high octane modeler"? Don't know about that, just doing something I really enjoy. And to think that stolen '56 was my very first scratch-built model. I think one reason my models are being chosen to sell is because I like to include detailed interiors. Makes a lot less work for them fixing them up for sale. So maybe I shouldn't feel so "honored" after all ๐Ÿ˜†

                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                • hellnbakH Offline
                  hellnbak
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                  Just checked and can't seem to find either of my models on the Conucopia3D site anymore. I suppose this could mean they were simply removed while the Customer Support Staff did it's investigation, but hopefully they have been permanently removed.

                  Also did a search there for models being sold by Stephane GIL, and found about a dozen models by MANDUN. Added a review for each stating that they were stolen, and can be found for free on the Sketchup 3D Warehouse.

                  Maybe that will at least hurt his/her sales until we can get the models removed, and maybe he/she won't try this again.

                  A lot of maybe's.

                  "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
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                    • irwanwrI Offline
                      irwanwr
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                      @hellnbak said:

                      Added a review for each stating that they were stolen, and can be found for free on the Sketchup 3D Warehouse.

                      Maybe that will at least hurt his/her sales until we can get the models removed, and maybe he/she won't try this again.

                      A lot of maybe's.

                      ๐Ÿ‘

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                      • hellnbakH Offline
                        hellnbak
                        last edited by

                        Sent an email requesting status of situation, just received this response --

                        ***Stephen,

                        We are reviewing all of Stephane's content and will be removing it from the store. I will let you know what we find.

                        Regards,
                        ChristieK***

                        Hopefully this means they will also remove all the other models stolen from the Warehouse, not just mine.

                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                        • hellnbakH Offline
                          hellnbak
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                          GoldenSim is apparently quite upset that I referred to the stolen Caddy as "my" Caddy. And technically, he's right. I did modify his original model for a contest that he was holding (see Topic http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=333&t=38739). So I just wanted to set the matter right. The model stolen was in fact my heavily modified/corrected version of his original basic model.

                          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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