[Plugin] Shell

nomeradona

this is the one im waiting for. I requested for this before but many keep on pointing joint push pull. thanks thomas..

jorge2011

Hi thom, This plugin generates a small error, you can fix that

Error: #<ArgumentError: Points are not planar>
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/tt_shell.rb:370:in add_face' C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/tt_shell.rb:370:in shell'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/tt_shell.rb:362:in each' C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/tt_shell.rb:362:in shell'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/tt_shell.rb:321:in offset_mesh' C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/tt_shell.rb:319:in each'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/tt_shell.rb:319:in offset_mesh' C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/tt_shell.rb:173:in onReturn'
C:/Archivos de programa/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/tt_shell.rb:420

jeff hammond

wow
i missed this one..
gonna test it a little later tonight.

thanks thom

thomthom

@jorge2011 said:

Hi thom, This plugin generates a small error, you can fix that

Ah, yea. There are bugs in this plugin. Hence the Alpha status of the version number. Though I've not had any time to work on it recently.

robert111

mr thomthom
when i make group for this form , i and i use shell plugin , i have this stroange message

thomthom

That error message is not something I've put into Shell. I have no idea where it's coming from. Exactly what is the steps you do to produce that? (Can you also share the model along with the steps?)

j_forrester

Is it possible to shell but keep the return from the original geometry. I have tried with JPP too but seems to fall down when you try it with and opening with single extruded returns.

Many thanks

thomthom

@j_forrester said:

Is it possible to shell but keep the return from the original geometry.

The generated geometry is created in a separate group - if that is what you mean..?

robert111

i post my file and vedio for this bug

bug00.rar

shell bug.rar

jeff hammond

@robert111 said:

i post my file and vedio for this bug

4.6MB for that.skp

one word:

PURGE

model info -> statistics -> purge unused.
gets it down to around 150kb

TIG

Your SKP will shrink to almost nothing IF you use Model Info > Purge Unused...
Then there's no need to zip/rar it and others will be more willing to look at it!
You don't appear to understand the idea of what makes a 'solid'.
An 8 sided box is a 'solid' - all edges have 2 faces - no more, no less.
Your group group has only 4 faces and several edges with only one face... so it's not a 'solid'.
Select two groups in turn and see what the Entity Info dialog says... make one as a 6 sided box [it says it's 'Solid'] and yours will not say it's 'solid' !
Therefore you can't do 'solid' operations on your group - it's not a 'solid'!

thomthom

... I'm confused ... you're getting the error when trying to use Solids Tools?

Shell doesn't require solids...

Can you explain step by step what you are doing? (What you click on etc.) Also, what are you trying to accomplish.

robert111

thomthom

i make box and i deleted 02 faces and i have group it
and after i click in this box and i click after shell plugin
i have make video for my file can you see it
the file video is shell bug.rar

TIG

Robert

As I tried to explain...
Shell and similar only only work if the group is a 'solid'.
An 6 sided box with no 'holes' is a 'solid'.
If you delete edges and/or faces then it is no longer a 'solid'.
The simple definition of a 'solid' group [or component] is that every edge in it has 2 faces attached to itself - but no more and no less...

thomthom

@tig said:

Shell and similar only only work if the group is a 'solid'.

No...

@thomthom said:

Shell doesn't require solids...

I will have a look at the sample video and see if I can understand what this whole is about.

thomthom

Ah!

Now I understand what this all is about!

You're trying to use SketchUp Solid Tools's "Outer Shell" command - instead of "Shell" which is this plugin. I can see how you got confused.

TIG

Aha!
His video shows him trying to use [Outer] Shell on a non-solid object !

robert111

mr TIG, thanks you for your reponse but i dont know how to make any form to solid form with sketchup, can you make video tutorial for this plugin plzzz

thomthom

@robert111 said:

mr TIG, thanks you for your reponse but i dont know how to make any form to solid form with sketchup, can you make video tutorial for this plugin plzzz

See the responses on the previous page since your last visit: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=39308&start=15#p365385

TIG

No.
If you do not grasp the concept of what a solid is how would showing you help?
Most simple forms made by Sketchup like boxes and cylinders are 'solids'.
When you add them together they can make internal partitions etc which need removing before it's considered to be a solid.
Try my SolidSolver tool which attempts to turn non-solid groups into solids...
However, your example of a 4 sided box could never be made a solid unless you add more faces/edge etc...