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    Windows 7, Sketchup 8 and SP 3 issues

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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      Maybe if one of the people with problems can send you their plugins folder and you can test that? Maybe there is a third-party plugin causing problem...

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        mptak
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        Sometimes the stars just align.....Chris, go ahead and release it. You know you want to. Throw us your adoring minions a bone. Hope all is well with life and coding.

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          camokid11
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          hi, within this post http://sketchupusers.vacau.com/index.php?topic=115.msg1292#new there is a link to a dropbox which has Sketchup 7 installer file (just look through it and find the link)

          thats if you want Sketchup 7 back.

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            bossdave
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            I have the same problems. Using Win7,SU8, SKP3. Only SKP# and default plugins are installed.
            Dave

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              CPhillips
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              Maybe its an issue with Win7?

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                CPhillips
                last edited by

                Can anyone who has SU8 and Win7 confirm whether it does or does not work?

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                  hpnisse
                  last edited by

                  I've got the simulation to work with:
                  Sketchup 8
                  SketchyPhysics 3 (last version I think)

                  And it runs on a computer with this:
                  Processor: Intel Pentium 4 - 3.2GHz
                  RAM: 2.5GB
                  OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (86-bit)

                  So the simulation is slow but it works fine. (only slow in big physics models, if the .skp file is over 1MB)
                  And I had no other (heavy) plugin like Twilight or somthing like that.
                  /hpnisse

                  ` /hpnisse`
                  ` Windows 7 U -Sketchup 8 -SketchyPhysics 3.2-Dec2 - from Sweden`

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                    CPhillips
                    last edited by

                    Gah! I dont want to have to upgrade to Win7 just to track this down. Does anyone happen to have Win7, SU8, SP3 and Visual Studio 2005+ installed? Long shot I know.....

                    Hpnisse you said it was slow with big models. Slower that SU7 with the same model?

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                      hpnisse
                      last edited by

                      No, it was the same thing with SU7, so I think that probably is the computers fault.

                      ` /hpnisse`
                      ` Windows 7 U -Sketchup 8 -SketchyPhysics 3.2-Dec2 - from Sweden`

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                        jblively
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                        @cphillips said:

                        Can anyone who has SU8 and Win7 confirm whether it does or does not work?

                        It's very random. On a given full day of working, sketchy physics will crash sketchup 7-8 times. Always while in run mode, and never at the 'start' of the simulation, usually a couple minutes in.

                        I don't have visual studio, sorry.

                        Using Win 7, Sketchup 8 and SP3.

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                          CPhillips
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                          Well this sucks. I finally managed to find a model that would crash SU8 and not SU7. But it is crashing deep in the physics engine and I have no way to debug it.

                          At least this crash is not in the Ruby differences. It may be a bug in SU8 or it maybe a bug in the physics engine. Either way I don't see how I can fix it.

                          😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠

                          This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.


                          su8crash.skp

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                            mptak
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                            In the immortal words of Marty Feldman....

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                            I guess I'll just need to fill real sandbags now.

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                              phy
                              last edited by

                              Can you pm me a file that isn't working? Since I have Win 7 and sketchup 8 and it seems to work ok.

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                                Barack
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                                Well I can't send my Plugins folder, but I can tell you what plugins I am on. These might be causing my recent crashes:

                                Sketchyphysics 3 RC1
                                Lazyscript 1.3083
                                Select at Startup

                                And, of course, all of the Sketchup 8 ruby examples.

                                Hope this helps,

                                Barack

                                I'm a Sketchup Free user, nothing else. 3DS is way too expensive, and Pro, ditto. What else do you expect?

                                UPDATE: I have some blender knowledge, that is why this signature is edited.

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                                  Barack
                                  last edited by

                                  @cphillips said:

                                  Well this sucks. I finally managed to find a model that would crash SU8 and not SU7. But it is crashing deep in the physics engine and I have no way to debug it.

                                  At least this crash is not in the Ruby differences. It may be a bug in SU8 or it maybe a bug in the physics engine. Either way I don't see how I can fix it.

                                  😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠

                                  This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.

                                  It doesn't crash my system. I am now using SU8 but it works fine. Maybe you should try a virus scan.

                                  I'm a Sketchup Free user, nothing else. 3DS is way too expensive, and Pro, ditto. What else do you expect?

                                  UPDATE: I have some blender knowledge, that is why this signature is edited.

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                                    Mr.K.1
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                                    @barack said:

                                    Well I can't send my Plugins folder, but I can tell you what plugins I am on. These might be causing my recent crashes:

                                    Sketchyphysics 3 RC1
                                    Lazyscript 1.3083
                                    Select at Startup

                                    And, of course, all of the Sketchup 8 ruby examples.

                                    Hope this helps,

                                    Barack

                                    LazyScript shouldn't affect anything until you add the scripts to your model.
                                    But once added there is no guarantee, some of the features work, and some are known to report errors in SU8.
                                    For the time being I advise using it only with SU7, because there is where the features were developed and tested.

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                                      Mr.K.1
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                                      @cphillips said:

                                      This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.

                                      Works fine for me.
                                      My setup is a little different tho, WinXP + SU8 + SP3X April 2

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                                        CPhillips
                                        last edited by

                                        I have found and fixed at least one problem with SP and SU8. Turns out the bug would also crash SU7 but far less frequently. The problem was with hinges and servos that used both min/max and accel/damp without a controller field.

                                        The downside to this fix is it may break older models that worked fine in SU7 but now crash SU8. I guess that is just the trade off. I'll do a bit more testing and then post a version and we will see if that fixes the instability.

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                                          jblively
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                                          @cphillips said:

                                          I have found and fixed at least one problem with SP and SU8. Turns out the bug would also crash SU7 but far less frequently. The problem was with hinges and servos that used both min/max and accel/damp without a controller field.

                                          The downside to this fix is it may break older models that worked fine in SU7 but now crash SU8. I guess that is just the trade off. I'll do a bit more testing and then post a version and we will see if that fixes the instability.

                                          This would most likely be the cause of our issues. As that is the scenario that the models that are crashing all have in common!

                                          Wow, great job in determining that. Because, YES, sketchup 7 did crash sometimes...but we just attributed it to common bug splats because it didn't happen often or consistently.

                                          Thanks again!!

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                                            astana777
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                                            @camokid11 said:

                                            hi Joe, i think i can explain this.

                                            http://sketchupusers.vacau.com/index.php?topic=115.msg1267#new

                                            this topic basicly asked the same question, and the conclusion was Sketchup 8 uses a newer version of ruby which isnt liked by Sketchyphysics (all version i believe).

                                            Sketchup 7 works fine on windows 7, but Sketchup 8 i havnt tried.

                                            My advice, if you can, switch back to sketchup 7 to use sketchyphysics.

                                            I've skp pro 8 on a windows 7 and man do I have a lot of bug when i do try 2 run a sketchy physics models 😑

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