Windows 7, Sketchup 8 and SP 3 issues

thomthom

I have a new version almost ready. But I cant release it until I know why it sometimes doesn't work with SU8

Are you getting errors?
Have you checked the code for the stricter syntax Ruby 1.8.6 require?
Or checked the Ruby 1.8.6 changelog for other info on changes in the core?

CPhillips

It seems to work fine on my copy of SU8 Pro. No crashes or unusual errors or warnings in the console. Maybe its a OS thing. I am running Vista.

Does anyone else find it less stable than in SU7?

thomthom

Maybe if one of the people with problems can send you their plugins folder and you can test that? Maybe there is a third-party plugin causing problem...

mptak

Sometimes the stars just align.....Chris, go ahead and release it. You know you want to. Throw us your adoring minions a bone. Hope all is well with life and coding.

camokid11

hi, within this post http://sketchupusers.vacau.com/index.php?topic=115.msg1292#new there is a link to a dropbox which has Sketchup 7 installer file (just look through it and find the link)

thats if you want Sketchup 7 back.

bossdave

I have the same problems. Using Win7,SU8, SKP3. Only SKP# and default plugins are installed.
Dave

CPhillips

Maybe its an issue with Win7?

CPhillips

Can anyone who has SU8 and Win7 confirm whether it does or does not work?

hpnisse

I've got the simulation to work with:
Sketchup 8
SketchyPhysics 3 (last version I think)

And it runs on a computer with this:
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 - 3.2GHz
RAM: 2.5GB
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (86-bit)

So the simulation is slow but it works fine. (only slow in big physics models, if the .skp file is over 1MB)
And I had no other (heavy) plugin like Twilight or somthing like that.
/hpnisse

CPhillips

Gah! I dont want to have to upgrade to Win7 just to track this down. Does anyone happen to have Win7, SU8, SP3 and Visual Studio 2005+ installed? Long shot I know.....

Hpnisse you said it was slow with big models. Slower that SU7 with the same model?

hpnisse

No, it was the same thing with SU7, so I think that probably is the computers fault.

jblively

@cphillips said:

Can anyone who has SU8 and Win7 confirm whether it does or does not work?

It's very random. On a given full day of working, sketchy physics will crash sketchup 7-8 times. Always while in run mode, and never at the 'start' of the simulation, usually a couple minutes in.

I don't have visual studio, sorry.

Using Win 7, Sketchup 8 and SP3.

CPhillips

Well this sucks. I finally managed to find a model that would crash SU8 and not SU7. But it is crashing deep in the physics engine and I have no way to debug it.

At least this crash is not in the Ruby differences. It may be a bug in SU8 or it maybe a bug in the physics engine. Either way I don't see how I can fix it.

This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.

su8crash.skp

mptak

In the immortal words of Marty Feldman....

Could be worse.....could be raining.

Thanks for your incredible work and passion for your invention.

I guess I'll just need to fill real sandbags now.

phy

Can you pm me a file that isn't working? Since I have Win 7 and sketchup 8 and it seems to work ok.

Barack

Well I can't send my Plugins folder, but I can tell you what plugins I am on. These might be causing my recent crashes:

Sketchyphysics 3 RC1
Lazyscript 1.3083
Select at Startup

And, of course, all of the Sketchup 8 ruby examples.

Hope this helps,

Barack

Barack

@cphillips said:

Well this sucks. I finally managed to find a model that would crash SU8 and not SU7. But it is crashing deep in the physics engine and I have no way to debug it.

At least this crash is not in the Ruby differences. It may be a bug in SU8 or it maybe a bug in the physics engine. Either way I don't see how I can fix it.

This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.

It doesn't crash my system. I am now using SU8 but it works fine. Maybe you should try a virus scan.

Mr.K.1

@barack said:

Well I can't send my Plugins folder, but I can tell you what plugins I am on. These might be causing my recent crashes:

Sketchyphysics 3 RC1
Lazyscript 1.3083
Select at Startup

And, of course, all of the Sketchup 8 ruby examples.

Hope this helps,

Barack

LazyScript shouldn't affect anything until you add the scripts to your model.
But once added there is no guarantee, some of the features work, and some are known to report errors in SU8.
For the time being I advise using it only with SU7, because there is where the features were developed and tested.

Mr.K.1

@cphillips said:

This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.

Works fine for me.
My setup is a little different tho, WinXP + SU8 + SP3X April 2

CPhillips

I have found and fixed at least one problem with SP and SU8. Turns out the bug would also crash SU7 but far less frequently. The problem was with hinges and servos that used both min/max and accel/damp without a controller field.

The downside to this fix is it may break older models that worked fine in SU7 but now crash SU8. I guess that is just the trade off. I'll do a bit more testing and then post a version and we will see if that fixes the instability.