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    Windows 7, Sketchup 8 and SP 3 issues

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      CPhillips
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      Can anyone who has SU8 and Win7 confirm whether it does or does not work?

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        hpnisse
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        I've got the simulation to work with:
        Sketchup 8
        SketchyPhysics 3 (last version I think)

        And it runs on a computer with this:
        Processor: Intel Pentium 4 - 3.2GHz
        RAM: 2.5GB
        OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (86-bit)

        So the simulation is slow but it works fine. (only slow in big physics models, if the .skp file is over 1MB)
        And I had no other (heavy) plugin like Twilight or somthing like that.
        /hpnisse

        ` /hpnisse`
        ` Windows 7 U -Sketchup 8 -SketchyPhysics 3.2-Dec2 - from Sweden`

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          CPhillips
          last edited by

          Gah! I dont want to have to upgrade to Win7 just to track this down. Does anyone happen to have Win7, SU8, SP3 and Visual Studio 2005+ installed? Long shot I know.....

          Hpnisse you said it was slow with big models. Slower that SU7 with the same model?

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            hpnisse
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            No, it was the same thing with SU7, so I think that probably is the computers fault.

            ` /hpnisse`
            ` Windows 7 U -Sketchup 8 -SketchyPhysics 3.2-Dec2 - from Sweden`

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              jblively
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              @cphillips said:

              Can anyone who has SU8 and Win7 confirm whether it does or does not work?

              It's very random. On a given full day of working, sketchy physics will crash sketchup 7-8 times. Always while in run mode, and never at the 'start' of the simulation, usually a couple minutes in.

              I don't have visual studio, sorry.

              Using Win 7, Sketchup 8 and SP3.

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                CPhillips
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                Well this sucks. I finally managed to find a model that would crash SU8 and not SU7. But it is crashing deep in the physics engine and I have no way to debug it.

                At least this crash is not in the Ruby differences. It may be a bug in SU8 or it maybe a bug in the physics engine. Either way I don't see how I can fix it.

                😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠

                This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.


                su8crash.skp

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                  mptak
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                  In the immortal words of Marty Feldman....

                  Could be worse.....could be raining.

                  Thanks for your incredible work and passion for your invention.

                  I guess I'll just need to fill real sandbags now.

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                    phy
                    last edited by

                    Can you pm me a file that isn't working? Since I have Win 7 and sketchup 8 and it seems to work ok.

                    Tableau de comparaison de Staxyn s'agit d'un mΠ“Β©dicament uniquement sur ordonnance.

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                      Barack
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                      Well I can't send my Plugins folder, but I can tell you what plugins I am on. These might be causing my recent crashes:

                      Sketchyphysics 3 RC1
                      Lazyscript 1.3083
                      Select at Startup

                      And, of course, all of the Sketchup 8 ruby examples.

                      Hope this helps,

                      Barack

                      I'm a Sketchup Free user, nothing else. 3DS is way too expensive, and Pro, ditto. What else do you expect?

                      UPDATE: I have some blender knowledge, that is why this signature is edited.

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                        Barack
                        last edited by

                        @cphillips said:

                        Well this sucks. I finally managed to find a model that would crash SU8 and not SU7. But it is crashing deep in the physics engine and I have no way to debug it.

                        At least this crash is not in the Ruby differences. It may be a bug in SU8 or it maybe a bug in the physics engine. Either way I don't see how I can fix it.

                        😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠

                        This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.

                        It doesn't crash my system. I am now using SU8 but it works fine. Maybe you should try a virus scan.

                        I'm a Sketchup Free user, nothing else. 3DS is way too expensive, and Pro, ditto. What else do you expect?

                        UPDATE: I have some blender knowledge, that is why this signature is edited.

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                          Mr.K.1
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                          @barack said:

                          Well I can't send my Plugins folder, but I can tell you what plugins I am on. These might be causing my recent crashes:

                          Sketchyphysics 3 RC1
                          Lazyscript 1.3083
                          Select at Startup

                          And, of course, all of the Sketchup 8 ruby examples.

                          Hope this helps,

                          Barack

                          LazyScript shouldn't affect anything until you add the scripts to your model.
                          But once added there is no guarantee, some of the features work, and some are known to report errors in SU8.
                          For the time being I advise using it only with SU7, because there is where the features were developed and tested.

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                            Mr.K.1
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                            @cphillips said:

                            This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.

                            Works fine for me.
                            My setup is a little different tho, WinXP + SU8 + SP3X April 2

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                              CPhillips
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                              I have found and fixed at least one problem with SP and SU8. Turns out the bug would also crash SU7 but far less frequently. The problem was with hinges and servos that used both min/max and accel/damp without a controller field.

                              The downside to this fix is it may break older models that worked fine in SU7 but now crash SU8. I guess that is just the trade off. I'll do a bit more testing and then post a version and we will see if that fixes the instability.

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                                jblively
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                                @cphillips said:

                                I have found and fixed at least one problem with SP and SU8. Turns out the bug would also crash SU7 but far less frequently. The problem was with hinges and servos that used both min/max and accel/damp without a controller field.

                                The downside to this fix is it may break older models that worked fine in SU7 but now crash SU8. I guess that is just the trade off. I'll do a bit more testing and then post a version and we will see if that fixes the instability.

                                This would most likely be the cause of our issues. As that is the scenario that the models that are crashing all have in common!

                                Wow, great job in determining that. Because, YES, sketchup 7 did crash sometimes...but we just attributed it to common bug splats because it didn't happen often or consistently.

                                Thanks again!!

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                                  astana777
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                                  @camokid11 said:

                                  hi Joe, i think i can explain this.

                                  http://sketchupusers.vacau.com/index.php?topic=115.msg1267#new

                                  this topic basicly asked the same question, and the conclusion was Sketchup 8 uses a newer version of ruby which isnt liked by Sketchyphysics (all version i believe).

                                  Sketchup 7 works fine on windows 7, but Sketchup 8 i havnt tried.

                                  My advice, if you can, switch back to sketchup 7 to use sketchyphysics.

                                  I've skp pro 8 on a windows 7 and man do I have a lot of bug when i do try 2 run a sketchy physics models 😑

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