Windows 7, Sketchup 8 and SP 3 issues

hpnisse · 23 Sept 2010, 15:09

No, it was the same thing with SU7, so I think that probably is the computers fault.

jblively · 24 Sept 2010, 13:59

Can anyone who has SU8 and Win7 confirm whether it does or does not work?

It's very random. On a given full day of working, sketchy physics will crash sketchup 7-8 times. Always while in run mode, and never at the 'start' of the simulation, usually a couple minutes in.

I don't have visual studio, sorry.

Using Win 7, Sketchup 8 and SP3.

CPhillips · 24 Sept 2010, 23:26

Well this sucks. I finally managed to find a model that would crash SU8 and not SU7. But it is crashing deep in the physics engine and I have no way to debug it.

At least this crash is not in the Ruby differences. It may be a bug in SU8 or it maybe a bug in the physics engine. Either way I don't see how I can fix it.

This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.

su8crash.skp

mptak · 25 Sept 2010, 00:48

In the immortal words of Marty Feldman....

Could be worse.....could be raining.

Thanks for your incredible work and passion for your invention.

I guess I'll just need to fill real sandbags now.

phy · 25 Sept 2010, 01:37

Can you pm me a file that isn't working? Since I have Win 7 and sketchup 8 and it seems to work ok.

Barack · 25 Sept 2010, 05:09

Well I can't send my Plugins folder, but I can tell you what plugins I am on. These might be causing my recent crashes:

Sketchyphysics 3 RC1
Lazyscript 1.3083
Select at Startup

And, of course, all of the Sketchup 8 ruby examples.

Hope this helps,

Barack

Barack · 25 Sept 2010, 06:31

@cphillips said:

Well this sucks. I finally managed to find a model that would crash SU8 and not SU7. But it is crashing deep in the physics engine and I have no way to debug it.

At least this crash is not in the Ruby differences. It may be a bug in SU8 or it maybe a bug in the physics engine. Either way I don't see how I can fix it.

This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.

It doesn't crash my system. I am now using SU8 but it works fine. Maybe you should try a virus scan.

Mr.K.1 · 25 Sept 2010, 16:24

@barack said:

Well I can't send my Plugins folder, but I can tell you what plugins I am on. These might be causing my recent crashes:

Sketchyphysics 3 RC1
Lazyscript 1.3083
Select at Startup

And, of course, all of the Sketchup 8 ruby examples.

Hope this helps,

Barack

LazyScript shouldn't affect anything until you add the scripts to your model.
But once added there is no guarantee, some of the features work, and some are known to report errors in SU8.
For the time being I advise using it only with SU7, because there is where the features were developed and tested.

Mr.K.1 · 25 Sept 2010, 16:30

@cphillips said:

This model always crashes SU8. If it doesn't crash your SU8 could you let me know.

Works fine for me.
My setup is a little different tho, WinXP + SU8 + SP3X April 2

CPhillips · 26 Sept 2010, 03:22

I have found and fixed at least one problem with SP and SU8. Turns out the bug would also crash SU7 but far less frequently. The problem was with hinges and servos that used both min/max and accel/damp without a controller field.

The downside to this fix is it may break older models that worked fine in SU7 but now crash SU8. I guess that is just the trade off. I'll do a bit more testing and then post a version and we will see if that fixes the instability.

jblively · 27 Sept 2010, 17:52

@cphillips said:

I have found and fixed at least one problem with SP and SU8. Turns out the bug would also crash SU7 but far less frequently. The problem was with hinges and servos that used both min/max and accel/damp without a controller field.

The downside to this fix is it may break older models that worked fine in SU7 but now crash SU8. I guess that is just the trade off. I'll do a bit more testing and then post a version and we will see if that fixes the instability.

This would most likely be the cause of our issues. As that is the scenario that the models that are crashing all have in common!

Wow, great job in determining that. Because, YES, sketchup 7 did crash sometimes...but we just attributed it to common bug splats because it didn't happen often or consistently.

Thanks again!!

astana777 · 11 Nov 2010, 22:56

@camokid11 said:

hi Joe, i think i can explain this.

http://sketchupusers.vacau.com/index.php?topic=115.msg1267#new

this topic basicly asked the same question, and the conclusion was Sketchup 8 uses a newer version of ruby which isnt liked by Sketchyphysics (all version i believe).

Sketchup 7 works fine on windows 7, but Sketchup 8 i havnt tried.

My advice, if you can, switch back to sketchup 7 to use sketchyphysics.

I've skp pro 8 on a windows 7 and man do I have a lot of bug when i do try 2 run a sketchy physics models