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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      @onesimo said:

      my extracted plugins are all working but i can not see them on the plugins folder..

      anyone knows how to be able to see them? i want to delete some installed plugins.

      It'd be better if you asked this question in a separate thread.

      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      • B Offline
        bertb
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        I am using SU as an architect for seven years now and still think it was a great idea to start with.
        Now ,reading all these remarks, I like to ask if it isn't about time that some folks start to think about making a real professional modelling program, ahead from the free Sketchup versions and much more aimed to the needs for all professional users.
        Come on, folks, show me... โ˜€

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        • jeff hammondJ Offline
          jeff hammond
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          @jbacus said:

          If you are an architect, it may be interesting to know that we have just granted you convenient access to Google's complete collection of geo-spatial imagery for more or less the entire world. In many parts of the world, you can now build a site model with accurate terrain, aerial and street-level photography and rough massing models for adjacent structures in minutes... without leaving your desk.

          john
          .

          Working for an architect I see this as a huge improvement as well. I was able to generate the entire site for a local airport we are working on in only minutes. Wow I say, wow.
          It may seem that this release has been geared more for Google Earth but all the added functionality I will be able to use in my workflow and I have never contributed to Google Earth.
          Although I might soon enough. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          lol
          i used this one simple video to send to the homeoffice showing a site we're planning for and immediately received approval to upgrade to su8.

          [flash=660,405:1tx6wjvl]http://www.youtube.com/v/TRcNgLDk7OA?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1[/flash:1tx6wjvl]

          dotdotdot

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            Does 83$ something for a Pro Office? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜’
            It's a meal at Mc Donald for 3 persons ๐Ÿ’š

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • PixeroP Offline
              Pixero
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              @unknownuser said:

              Does 83$ something for a Pro Office? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜’
              It's a meal at Mc Donald for 3 persons ๐Ÿ’š

              Maybe for a small office, but if you have a number of licenses that would need to be upgraded for everyone to use the same, costs can grow rapidly and bosses can start questioning the need for that upgrade. ๐Ÿค“

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                We have 4 licenses so it's a bit more but still, it's a very cheap upgrade relatively speaking.

                dotdotdot

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                • R Offline
                  rv1974
                  last edited by

                  @jbacus said:

                  @rv1974 said:

                  "No one will need more than 637 kb of memory for a personal computer." -Bill Gates, 1981
                  "64-bit processing will have no benefit" -John Bacus. 2010(sic!)
                  ๐Ÿ˜„

                  Be polite. I'm making a more complex point than you're giving me credit for making.

                  john
                  .

                  =======
                  'I don't think ordinary users will see any benefit from a 64-bit SketchUp'-
                  http://www.deelip.com/?p=2643
                  Being responsible for your sayings\deeds (or lack of deeds)- that's what I'd call to be 'polite'

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                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
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                    When you see how 'Solid tools' and SDS 2 work together (new quad subdivision) it will be reason enough for the organic modelers out there. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    http://www.solos-art.com

                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                    • E Offline
                      emage
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Does 83$ something for a Pro Office? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜’
                      It's a meal at Mc Donald for 3 persons ๐Ÿ’š

                      Yes, but 8 seats are 760$(!)...
                      Not sure V8 is worth that much to us, when we need to rely on other programs either way.
                      be it Maxwell Studio (since inserting high-poly props inside SU is a no-go) or Other Tools for UV Mapping.
                      Might as well consider a seat or two of Modo / C4D / Other and upgrade our Modeling Capabilities along the way.
                      We won't stop using SU (anytime soon). but as we read the map (and the developers answers)
                      our future and SU future is not heading in the same direction.

                      On a side note, I'm all up for the notion of SU as a Platform - I Don't need Google to develop tools for SU.
                      I'd Happily PAY for Grade-A Ruby scripts (as I've done before). I think that this community is the true power behind SU.
                      But if it is a Platform - then be it A PLATFORM! (= Fast, Able to host Plugins/Render Engines, with a decent API & Tools for Developers)
                      Take a note from Android - Also by Google. Google hasn't developed 10% of the Apps on the Market.
                      But they sure as hell developed a SOLID PLATFORM. Can you imagine it come to a crawl when trying to use an App?
                      If this is a PRO product (and it sure has cost as one) - I expect it to Handle a PRO workflow and demands (eg. - High Poly Count).
                      I Really LOVE sketchup, but that's just the thing that annoys me the most -
                      I can see the HUGE potential (it can be a one-stop-shop for us as architects)
                      but it just doesn't get there. or even close to that.

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                      • T Offline
                        tfdesign
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        @unknownuser said:

                        @jbacus said:

                        If you are an architect, it may be interesting to know that we have just granted you convenient access to Google's complete collection of geo-spatial imagery for more or less the entire world. In many parts of the world, you can now build a site model with accurate terrain, aerial and street-level photography and rough massing models for adjacent structures in minutes... without leaving your desk.

                        john
                        .

                        Working for an architect I see this as a huge improvement as well. I was able to generate the entire site for a local airport we are working on in only minutes. Wow I say, wow.
                        It may seem that this release has been geared more for Google Earth but all the added functionality I will be able to use in my workflow and I have never contributed to Google Earth.
                        Although I might soon enough. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        lol
                        i used this one simple video to send to the homeoffice showing a site we're planning for and immediately received approval to upgrade to su8.

                        Brilliant news!! Thanks very much John! I'm so pleased that I didn't buy 7.1 Pro. Well worth the wait! ๐Ÿ˜„

                        My book "Let's SketchUp!" Download from here

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                        • pbacotP Offline
                          pbacot
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          @jbacus said:

                          If you are an architect, it may be interesting to know that we have just granted you convenient access to Google's complete collection of geo-spatial imagery for more or less the entire world. In many parts of the world, you can now build a site model with accurate terrain, aerial and street-level photography and rough massing models for adjacent structures in minutes... without leaving your desk.

                          john
                          .

                          Working for an architect I see this as a huge improvement as well. I was able to generate the entire site for a local airport we are working on in only minutes. Wow I say, wow.
                          It may seem that this release has been geared more for Google Earth but all the added functionality I will be able to use in my workflow and I have never contributed to Google Earth.
                          Although I might soon enough. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          Accurate? Really? for A real project? Is it anything like USGS data? (I know it isn't like a survey, which is what you need in the end, but is it actually usable for schematics?) Does one have to use SU 8 to find this out?

                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
                            last edited by

                            @pbacot said:

                            Accurate? Really? for A real project? Is it anything like USGS data? (I know it isn't like a survey, which is what you need in the end, but is it actually usable for schematics?) Does one have to use SU 8 to find this out?

                            i haven't compared it to the survey and only checked the high and low points and yes, it was accurate enough for our needs.. afterall, i build skateboard parks so we're morphing the land to our vision..
                            i need a feel for the land so-to-speak and this feature gives it to me very easily.

                            dotdotdot

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                            • T Offline
                              tfdesign
                              last edited by

                              John, fancy going into partnership with Unity? ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜„

                              My book "Let's SketchUp!" Download from here

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                                tim
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                                @thomthom said:

                                But I'm curious if SketchUp can be made LargeAddressAware, which would mean under 64bit OS it could address 4GB ram instead of 2.

                                What? Windows only allows you access to 2Gb? Insane. Immediately stop using such a lame OS.

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                                • D Offline
                                  d12dozr
                                  last edited by

                                  @jbacus said:

                                  @d12dozr said:

                                  John,
                                  I should have been more clear, I meant rendering with a plugin inside Sketchup. I use Twilight, I understand Vray and other render programs have similar trouble. Depending on model size, trouble can start at 2000 px.

                                  Thanks for replying.

                                  Photorealistic rendering operations surely benefit from 64-bit processing. Rendering plugins do not have to execute rendering operations inside SketchUp's 32-bit environment, and can be built to run in their own 64-bit environment outside of the main SketchUp process. I think many of the more popular ones are already doing this.

                                  john
                                  .

                                  Thanks for the explanation, John. I appreciate your personal attention.

                                  3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                                  http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                                  • brodieB Offline
                                    brodie
                                    last edited by

                                    John, a lot of your answers seem to suggest that SU must remain elementary because it has a wide user base which includes those unfamiliar with more complicated 3d issues. That makes a lot of sense for the free version but less sense for the Pro version. Do you envision the Pro version incorporation more of those tools used by professionals, or do you feel that the current (small) gap between the free and Pro versions should be maintained?

                                    -Brodie

                                    steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                                    • R Offline
                                      rv1974
                                      last edited by

                                      @jbacus said:

                                      @rv1974 said:

                                      "No one will need more than 637 kb of memory for a personal computer." -Bill Gates, 1981
                                      "64-bit processing will have no benefit" -John Bacus. 2010(sic!)
                                      ๐Ÿ˜„

                                      Be polite. I'm making a more complex point than you're giving me credit for making.

                                      john
                                      .

                                      =======
                                      'I don't think ordinary users will see any benefit from a 64-bit SketchUp'-
                                      http://www.deelip.com/?p=2643
                                      Being responsible for your sayings\deeds (or lack of deeds)- that's what I'd call to be 'polite'

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        John, a lot of your answers seem to suggest that SU must remain elementary because it has a wide user base which includes those unfamiliar with more complicated 3d issues. That makes a lot of sense for the free version but less sense for the Pro version. Do you envision the Pro version incorporation more of those tools used by professionals, or do you feel that the current (small) gap between the free and Pro versions should be maintained?

                                        -Brodie

                                        UV mapping would be a very nice Pro tool. Would be a good selling point to get people to upgrade. Better that than taking away features, like DWG and North - that just gives out a negative signal.

                                        I like the idea of SU Pro having some extra extensions that can be enabled.

                                        But I'm still in the category of those that hope to see SU further developed as a platform. I love to be able to shape the app or features I use. Like Firefox.

                                        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • brodieB Offline
                                          brodie
                                          last edited by

                                          @thomthom said:

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          John, a lot of your answers seem to suggest that SU must remain elementary because it has a wide user base which includes those unfamiliar with more complicated 3d issues. That makes a lot of sense for the free version but less sense for the Pro version. Do you envision the Pro version incorporation more of those tools used by professionals, or do you feel that the current (small) gap between the free and Pro versions should be maintained?

                                          -Brodie

                                          UV mapping would be a very nice Pro tool. Would be a good selling point to get people to upgrade. Better that than taking away features, like DWG and North - that just gives out a negative signal.

                                          I like the idea of SU Pro having some extra extensions that can be enabled.

                                          But I'm still in the category of those that hope to see SU further developed as a platform. I love to be able to shape the app or features I use. Like Firefox.

                                          You make a good point. Perhaps some of the current frustration is that we seem to be in a sort of middle ground. In the long run given what I know now, I think you're right that a platform scenario would probably be better. I'm not a programmer but based on what I've seen just a few of them do (you, Fredo, Whaat, TIG, etc.), it seems to me if that if they opened up the program to you we would be much better off. It may not solve the poly issues, but could greatly help things like UV tools, status bars, UI improvements, etc. Is that what you're thinking?

                                          -Brodie

                                          steelblue http://www.steelbluellc.com

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            Yea. I'd be very happy if SU was developed as a platform where they [Google] worked on the core of the application and kept improving the API and SDK which would allow third party users to create custom fit environments for various speciality areas.

                                            Entity A could develop a BIM solutiuon
                                            Entity B could develop UV Tools
                                            Entity C could develop landscaping tools
                                            Entity D could develop gaming tools

                                            If you build an app for everyone you end up with a bug huge bloated beast where most users doesn't even use a fraction of the tools. But yet they'd pay a premium for all the features added. Like AutoCAD and that type off application.
                                            But if you develop a core and a platform it can be moulded to fit each niche's use - and it could be developed by completely separate entities. That means parallel development for the platform you use where you pick and choose exactly what you want to use and you pay also only for what you use.
                                            Much more agile than an include-the-kitchen-sink solution.

                                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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