Bonzai 2.0 released
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Modelhead,
Virus detection software causes all kinds of problems with installation, and we found that users simply did not follow the recommendations to disable this before installing -- and they were ending up with corrupted installations that did not run properly. So rather than forcing the user to disable virus detection prior to installing (which is not possible with all limited user accounts), we simply eliminated the installer. Thus bonzai3d will not be corrupted by the virus detection software running when it is installed precisely because there is no installation necessary. As far as the registry, we basically just register the BNZ filetype, and we also add a shortcut to the Start Menu for convenience of launching bonzai3d. There is nothing in the registry that will cause any harm to the system or programs -- and deleting the start menu item is quite easy (even easier than running an uninstaller).
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i kinda like the idea of no installer. i could probably run this software off a thumbdrive, right? i wish more programs would keep it simple. maybe a batch file to delete the registry entry and shorcut enties could be added to the B3D directory, for the more discerning users.
sounds like Modelhead is pissed he never thought of this approach.
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how is an installer more secure?
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Modelhead,
Thanks for your feedback.
Bonzai3d basically lives inside its folder, and does not distribute files all over the system like some other softwares do.
However, I should have also mentioned that bonzai3d will make a bonzai3d folder in your Documents folder to store custom items that the user creates (such as Components, custom Materials, renderings, etc). To completely remove all traces of bonzai3d, you should also delete this folder -- as well as any other files that you have saved yourself.
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when tou use an installer does it tell you every file it places and change it makes? when you use an uninstaller are you somehow guaranteed that it removes every file it placed and all its registry entries... i don't think so, i have many times found files and folders from programs i've uninstalled long ago. pisses me off really!
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@unknownuser said:
:lol: no...not really. It is ok for you and I to skip a few steps, we are not holding a huge amount of assets on our computers. But there are no administrators that I know that would introduce a 200 meg bomb in there environment with out full scrutiny that includes knowing that native file types are recognizable. So you are just limiting your customer base to small unsecured, stand-alone. If you are not convinced then check with someone responsible for keeping a network secure.
Do a little homework before you make yourself look silly.
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We now have quite a few large firms (architectural and other) that have implemented bonzai3d, and no one has complained about this yet. In fact we have received a number of compliments on the ease of implementing bonzai3d in a larger office environment.
This being said, there is no reason we can't implement a "delete" or "uninstall" function that will automatically remove the file type registration, the start menu shortcut, and the bonzai3d folder in the documents folder. This could save a few clicks, and if it somehow makes you feel more secure, all the better...
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
We are pleased to announce that a Beta version of the SketchUp version 7 Importer plugin is now available for Windows users of bonzai3d version 2.0. For more information on this, please see the link below:
(This is available to Trial users as well as registered users.)
Please give this a try, and send any feedback to support@bonzai3d.
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@unknownuser said:
Please give this a try, and send any feedback to support@bonzai3d.
is their an installer?
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What about the Mac and SU version 7.1?
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7.1 files are the same as 7 files, so the 7 importer should work for all your file importing needs.
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Chris,
In addition to what Remus has posted (this plugin should import SKP 7.0 and 7.1 files), we are working a plugin for Mac as well. We will post again when this is available, and we expect that the "final" plugins for Mac and Windows will be available at the same time.
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Thank you.
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hi. will there be a light version (or maybe even a free version like google offers) for those of us that are hobbyist users and don't make any money? it makes me very sad i cant afford this.
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Modelhead,
We have been using installers for almost 20 years with formZ and other software, so we do have a lot of experience with this. Thanks for your suggestions.
(Is there anyone else that prefers the complications an installer adds rather than simply copying the application folder?)
Align,
This is something that we are considering, although we do not have a definitive answer at this time.
We have also just released our 2.0.1 update, which adds support for a few more languages:
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I remark that the French (who is the number 3 on the Net) is not on your image
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Frenchy,
Sorry, we are still waiting on our French Distributor for the translation. As soon as we get it, we will release it.
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@unknownuser said:
by modelhead on Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:56 am
Is there anyone else that prefers the complications an installer adds rather than simply copying the application folder?)
..this one goes under my list of points that got missed.
Modelhead,
Other than your comments, we have still not heard any complaints from anyone regarding copying the application instead of using an installer. We have only received compliments, so I'm not sure what else we can say...
We do appreciate your feedback though.
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Did any of you guys end up jumping ship to Bonzai? Looks pretty good and I have a project that requires Nurbs modelling that sketchup would struggle with. Worth trying?
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Tried, have it, it but haven't jumped ship. As you say, it's quite a different tool - for a different purpose.
SketchUp is a mesh modeller, Bonzai3d is a NURBS modeller. Two very different beasts. If you need NURBS then Bonzai3d is an option. So is Rhino - very good.
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