[Plugin] 2D Tools

agrazdi · 22 Sept 2009, 12:48

Tig

Any plans for a double line ?

agrazdi

EarthMover · 22 Sept 2009, 13:19

The more I use this toolset, the more I love it. I had to do a quick cross section of a roof detail yesterday to apply for permits on an upcoming build. Instead of CAD, I was able to do it all in Sketchup using 2D tools. Putting the line style changes on their own layer to be toggled on and off, is brilliant. You can do preliminary plan view drawings with line styles, then shut them off and proceed with the 3D modeling. Another great thing about Line Styles......they are renderable!!

It would be nice to incorporate Matt's extend tool into the toolset. Also making an extend tool for an arc would be brilliant. So often I have to try and continue and existing arc to a line and it usually requires finding the center point, using TOS to draw a Cline Circle, then snapping the arcs bulge to it, as tangent snaps isn't always reliable. Another way is to explode the curve, find center point and rotate a section around, but if it could be streamlined into a Arc extend tool, that would great.

One other request would be the ability to have leader text that doesn't change size when your scroll in and out. Perhaps there is a setting to change this that I don't know about??? Perhaps an improved leader text tool for 2D tools would be in order.

Pixero · 22 Sept 2009, 14:21

I cant see any snapping points when using the line tool. Bug?

markozeta · 22 Sept 2009, 15:37

@earthmover said:

One other request would be the ability to have leader text that doesn't change size when your scroll in and out. Perhaps there is a setting to change this that I don't know about??? Perhaps an improved leader text tool for 2D tools would be in order.

Set your text size to be a value in inches, rather than point size.

Window > Model Info > Text > Font Size.

Set it for a value in inches and it will be constant. In points it will move zoom with the zoom.

Ben Ritter · 22 Sept 2009, 15:41

TIG,

Just started to use the tools and all I can say is that they are wonderful. Thank you so much.

One problem I'm having is getting the hatching command to work. Does not want to initialize, no dialog box, etc.

Ben

TIG · 22 Sept 2009, 16:57

@ben ritter said:

TIG,

Just started to use the tools and all I can say is that they are wonderful. Thank you so much.

One problem I'm having is getting the hatching command to work. Does not want to initialize, no dialog box, etc.

Ben

After hatching has been run once you should get it opening without a dialog, with the last set 'patt' reported on the VCB, right-click in empty-space to get the dialog up to change the 'patt'. Otherwise please run with ruby console open and report error messages...

TIG · 22 Sept 2009, 16:58

@pixero said:

I cant see any snapping points when using the line tool. Bug?

There aren't any ! Might add some ???

TIG · 22 Sept 2009, 17:06

2D text has no 'leaders' - it's easy enough to add one as a 2D polyline between the text and the required point. If you want an arrow or 'dot' then add say a text 'point' at the end ?

Ben Ritter · 22 Sept 2009, 20:04

@tig said:

@ben ritter said:

TIG,

Just started to use the tools and all I can say is that they are wonderful. Thank you so much.

One problem I'm having is getting the hatching command to work. Does not want to initialize, no dialog box, etc.

Ben

After hatching has been run once you should get it opening without a dialog, with the last set 'patt' reported on the VCB, right-click in empty-space to get the dialog up to change the 'patt'. Otherwise please run with ruby console open and report error messages...

TIG,

I click on the tool and nothing happens. The ruby console says, "Cancelled 2d Hatching". That's all it says.

facer · 23 Sept 2009, 01:01

Tig,
Thank you for ruby, well done.

Everything appears to work except for 2D Hatching and Text.
I am unable to activate the 2D Hatching or Text.
Operating system Windows 2000.

Here is the ruby consule output for the attempts on Hatching and Text:

Cancelled 2D Hatching.
Cancelled 2D Hatching.
Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method refresh_thumbnail' for #<Sketchup::ComponentDefinition:0x74ebee0>> C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/2Dtools/2DtextTool.rb:126:in activate'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/2Dtools/2DtextTool.rb:343:in select_tool' C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/2Dtools/2DtextTool.rb:343:in texttool2D'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/2Dtools/2D#loader.rb:130
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/2Dtools/2D#loader.rb:130:in `call'

Pixero · 23 Sept 2009, 05:58

@tig said:

@pixero said:

I cant see any snapping points when using the line tool. Bug?

There aren't any ! Might add some ???

Please do.

TIG · 23 Sept 2009, 09:38

@ben ritter said:

I click on the tool and nothing happens. The ruby console says, "Cancelled 2d Hatching". That's all it says.

A mystery ! Please give me details of SUp version, OS etc...
But first can you also try typing/pasting this command into the ruby console to see what happens...

hatchingtool2D

The only tile you get the "Cancelled 2d Hatching" message is if you open the dialog and then cancel the dialog, the tool is cancelled too...

Does this problem happen on a 'brand new' and 'empty' model and/or existing ones ?
With the ruby console open, if you pick on the tool from the toolbar or menu do you get the cancelled message immediately ? What does the VCB say ? What materials do you have in the Materials Browser ? Any 'PATT' ones ?

I shall get to the bottom of this

TIG · 23 Sept 2009, 09:43

@facer said:

Everything appears to work except for 2D Hatching and Text.
I am unable to activate the 2D Hatching or Text.
Operating system Windows 2000.
Here is the ruby console output for the attempts on Hatching and Text:
Cancelled 2D Hatching.
Cancelled 2D Hatching.
Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method refresh_thumbnail' for #<Sketchup::ComponentDefinition:0x74ebee0>> C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/2Dtools/2DtextTool.rb:126:in activate'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/2Dtools/2DtextTool.rb:343:in select_tool' C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/2Dtools/2DtextTool.rb:343:in texttool2D'
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/2Dtools/2D#loader.rb:130
C:/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 6/Plugins/2Dtools/2D#loader.rb:130:in `call'

See my recent reply to Ben Ritter who has similar problems with Hatching...
Can you give me a few more details about the SUp version etc...
I suspect you are using an earlier version of SUp that doesn't support definition.refresh_thumbnail ?
I'll look into it...

SHAHEEN · 23 Sept 2009, 13:14

thanks a lot TIG . u r amazin

TIG · 23 Sept 2009, 13:25

Here's v2.6 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=185760#p185760

Line inferencing and tooltips improved.
Circle VCB messages improved or corrected.
Hatching error/glitch fixed.
Text error with SUp v<7 fixed.

Edson · 23 Sept 2009, 13:35

gosh! there is no limit to how much you can improve your plugins. i may have said this before, tig, but you are a great asset to this community.

Ben Ritter · 23 Sept 2009, 13:51

@tig said:

@ben ritter said:

I click on the tool and nothing happens. The ruby console says, "Cancelled 2d Hatching". That's all it says.

A mystery ! Please give me details of SUp version, OS etc...
But first can you also try typing/pasting this command into the ruby console to see what happens...

hatchingtool2D

The only tile you get the "Cancelled 2d Hatching" message is if you open the dialog and then cancel the dialog, the tool is cancelled too...

Does this problem happen on a 'brand new' and 'empty' model and/or existing ones ?

With the ruby console open, if you pick on the tool from the toolbar or menu do you get the cancelled message immediately ? What does the VCB say ? What materials do you have in the Materials Browser ? Any 'PATT' ones ?

I shall get to the bottom of this

TIG,

Tried v 2.6 and same happens.

In the ruby console, tried your suggestion:

hatchingtool2D
Cancelled 2D Hatching.
#Sketchup::Model:0x5047f78

I'm running SU 6.4.112, XP Professional Service Pack 3, brand new model, just the default texture. With ruby console open, I get the message immediately, nothing in the VCB.

Thanks for checking into it. Ben

dedmin · 23 Sept 2009, 13:51

@tig said:

Here's v2.6 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=185760#p185760

Line inferencing and tooltips improved.
Circle VCB messages improved or corrected.
Hatching error/glitch fixed.
Text error with SUp v<7 fixed.

Google, stop trying to compete with TIG!!!

Dan · 23 Sept 2009, 15:23

Tig, thanks again for your wonderful work, daily updates and your "instant" answers!

A suggestion : an "adjust" tool (instead of the requested "extend").
ArchiCAD has such a tool and I use it very often.
It works like that:

select an entity (line, arc, poly-line, etc.)
choose the "adjust" tool
pick another 2D entity (line, arc, circle, poly-line, etc), or draw a line
the selected 2D entity then is "adjusted" to the last one (shortened if it's longer, extended if it's shorter)

I don't know if it's hard to add this to your tools, but it would be very useful to me (and many others, I dare to think).

TIG · 23 Sept 2009, 16:10

Dan

The 2D Fillet Tool also acts as a Trim Tool or an Extend Tool - when its value=0.
By default its radius/chamfer value=0.
Run the 2D Fillet Tool.
Pick two Edges.
Assuming they intersect...
If they are long they are Trimmed
If they are short they are Extended.
If the Edge owns more that one Face it is not Trimmed as that would destroy the Face !
It works on Lines, Polylines, Arcs etc...
However, it doesn't remake Arcs to Extend them to the new intersection - just changes the last segment length...
What is the difference between this and what you suggest ? I can only see it's this Arc remaking ?