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    • CarrozzaC Offline
      Carrozza
      last edited by

      Well, I'm for a simple bevel, like the one at the top of the nested shape.
      By the way after some tests I believe is not possible to achieve it in SketchUp.
      It looks like the problem is the base of the cylinder is curved in two ways: as a circle and as laying over the underlying curved surface.

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      • A Offline
        Aerilius
        last edited by

        See the attachment. It's not a perfect way, but you can experiment with it.


        bevel_on_concave_face.skp

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          Here's a manual method. It makes a complex angled bevel around the cylinder.ComplexBevel.png


          ComplexBevel.skp

          TIG

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            I wonder, could Chris' Bend plugin be used here?

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            • CarrozzaC Offline
              Carrozza
              last edited by

              Thanks for your help, guys!
              I like TIG solution best, but man! That's a crazy workflow to bevel an edge!
              OK, we'll survive, gonna play around that... πŸ˜„

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                the problem is that the angle between the tube and it's mating surface changes..(in the original post's picture, the area near your arrow is an obtuse angle and changes to 90deg at the sides).. that drawing also shows that you're not wanting a simple bevel rather a radius..
                TIG's drawing makes more sense of what i was getting at in my first post in that the amount of offset grows as it nears the top/bottom of the joint.. you could also do it where that amount stays the same and the angle changes..

                i put in a feature request for the subdivide&smooth plugin that would handle this nicely.
                http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?p=149839#p149839

                dotdotdot

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  In my version the offset stays the same and the bevel's angle changes the further down the curving block it is. Of course you could try having a constant angle bevel and then the offset would be variable... but against a curved surface that falls away there's a chance that it's never meet it...
                  You have to think how this might be done in 'real life' - after all, we are only modelling it as an approximation - chances are it would be a bit of both - on 'professional bodge'...

                  TIG

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Pilou - great ideas... πŸ€“

                    TIG

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      I have forgotten to say : Mirror 3 points by TIG πŸ˜‰
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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Another solution πŸ˜‰
                        So it's a variable fillet πŸ˜‰ (the best fillet but depending of what is needing πŸ’š
                        Mirror by TIG


                        another.jpg


                        anot.jpg

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          I was praising your thinking, I wasn't criticising you not mentioning my Mirror-tool !
                          [J'ai Γ©tΓ© en louant votre rΓ©flexion, je ne chante pas la critique de ne pas mentionner mon outil 'Mirror'!] πŸ˜„

                          TIG

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Of course yes, but the funny thing is that I did'nt remember the author of the Mirror plug, so when I saw that was the "Tiger", I could'nt resist πŸ˜„

                            A cool thing will be a "sweep 2 rails" in SU so here Arc is the profil, Rail 1 = "circle 1" (curve 3D) , rail 2 = circle 2
                            So just draw one arc, one circle on surface and 2 clicks πŸ˜’

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              .it is just a follow-me with the bevel profile and then intersect

                              That will be wonderful but you can't πŸ˜‰
                              At some place upper profil can't "past" to the cylinder!
                              Result gives some crack fissures!


                              cracks.jpg

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                              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by

                                right, with a simple angled bevel, you could do it as modelhead is saying.. the 'bevel' shown in Carrozza's original picture will cause the problem that frenchy is showing.. the joint's intersecting angle doesn't remain consistent so something has to give when you try putting another radius in there. blending 3 curves together like that is always going to pose a problem because there are so many variables at play.

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                                • CarrozzaC Offline
                                  Carrozza
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes it's a tricky edge to deal with.
                                  To date Pilou's solution is the most clean and customizable.

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