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    • EdsonE Offline
      Edson
      last edited by

      @inio said:

      Short answer: If you have Intel GMA950 graphics (early MacBooks and all Mac Minis?) and SketchUp is locking up after you box-select or just randomly after you try to select objects, this download my resolve the issue. The latest versions of MacOS and SketchUp that this patch has been confirmed useful with are 10.5.6 and 7.0.8656.

      does it work for the latest build (10035)? is it restricted to Intel GMA950 graphics? it seems that the same problem afflicts other macs running 10.5.6 as well.

      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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        inio
        last edited by

        @edson said:

        does it work for the latest build (10035)? is it restricted to Intel GMA950 graphics? it seems that the same problem afflicts other macs running 10.5.6 as well.

        There should't be anything build-specific about the patch. It just causes a certain OpenGL call (glClear) to make an extra call (CGLFlushDrawable) when it's called after drawing to the front buffer. As long as SketchUp follows the same call pattern, it should continue working.

        It's possible that this bug exists in other drivers. I'll test on a current-gen MacBook tonight if I remember. Other than that I don't have any other Intel macs available.

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        • EdsonE Offline
          Edson
          last edited by

          thanks. for what it is worth, i own an intel macbook pro 2.4ghz and its graphic card is the geforce 8600M GT.

          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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            bjanzen
            last edited by

            1. Make sure you're not affected by http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377.

            2. We also look at http://developer.apple.com/graphicsimaging/opengl/capabilities/ but you should be OK with that list.

            3. Send me the model, steps to test, and time, and I'll write an automation script to repeat it and time it with multiple tries.

            4. Look at Mitchel's 3D Basecamp presentation on working with large models: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnhkei2dSrY if it's not hardware related.

            Hope that helps.

            b

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              lehieu1810
              last edited by

              My Macbook Pro T9300 2.5Ghz,4GB RAM, VGA 8600M GT,Leopard 10.5.7 run SU 6 & 7 very slow,in rotate,move,....(working on a large model).I try Thawup,maybe it not work, I don't see different.
              In Window,SU run smooth!! Maybe VGA driver support for MAC not good!
              Any ideas ???

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              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                Chris Fullmer
                last edited by

                Hi Lehieu, you can try updating your Mac video card drivers directly from the video card makers website. Also, there's no need to write in bold like that. We can all read it even easier if its plain type. Thanks

                Chris

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                • EdsonE Offline
                  Edson
                  last edited by

                  chris,

                  there is no update for mac drivers at the makers' site. it seems that only PC drivers can be updated.

                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                    jeff hammond
                    last edited by

                    right. nvidia, for instance, doesn't develop OS X drivers and they are provided by apple. The driver updates are included with the normal software updates.

                    It's probably just a case of a big SU model acting sluggish and lehieu didn't actually say the same exact model is smooth with windows but not on his mac..
                    i'd be interested in knowing how large the model is (model info->stats)

                    dotdotdot

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                    • EdsonE Offline
                      Edson
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      It's probably just a case of a big SU model acting sluggish and lehieu didn't actually say the same exact model is smooth with windows but not on his mac..
                      i'd be interested in knowing how large the model is (model info->stats)

                      there is also the issue of model organisation. if he does not use layers and scenes to organise the model and its visualisation no graphics card will be able to handle it.

                      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                        anugill333
                        last edited by

                        thank you....worked like a charm

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                          lehieu1810
                          last edited by

                          I was reinstall MAC OS 10.5.6 (come back from 10.5.7) and install SU7,SU6,ThawUp (Thawup is only install in SU6 folder).Sketchup on MAC OSX still working slow (in rotate,view...action,fps is down). In Win,it's faster,smooth (on large model). I don't know the problem ?? Who can help me??
                          Macbook Pro 2.5ghz, VGA 8600M GT

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                            lehieu1810
                            last edited by

                            Who can help me ??

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                              RHD
                              last edited by

                              Just installed it. You total star! I've lived with is bug so long I've got used to it.

                              I'm usually just grateful if SketchUp doesn't crash. It's a great program but massively unstable on Mac OS which is a huge shame.

                              Your patch has speeded up performance on big files amazingly too.

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                                minicrazy592
                                last edited by

                                Sketch Up still hanging after install on OSX 10.5.7. Thaw Up seems to work for me and sometimes not. It's extremely frustrating when I am trying to do a project. I've done the Leopard graphics update at 10.5.2 and installed Thaw Up shortly after. The problem really hasn't seemed to go away all up to now. Any ideas?
                                Specs:
                                Model Name: Mac mini
                                Model Identifier: Macmini2,1 (Late 2007)
                                Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
                                Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
                                Number Of Processors: 1
                                Total Number Of Cores: 2
                                L2 Cache: 2 MB
                                Memory: 4 GB-hangs and crashes don't last nearly as long as when I had 1GB lol
                                Bus Speed: 667 MHz
                                Boot ROM Version: MM21.009A.B00
                                SMC Version (system): 1.19f2

                                Also I have a partition of an early Snow Leopard developer edition (Build 10a222). It still seems persistent in there as well.

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                                  gvelis28
                                  last edited by

                                  I have this same issue on my Macbook. My setup is: GMA x3100 video card v10.5.7

                                  Hardware Overview:

                                  Model Name: MacBook
                                  Model Identifier: MacBook4,1
                                  Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
                                  Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
                                  Number Of Processors: 1
                                  Total Number Of Cores: 2
                                  L2 Cache: 3 MB
                                  Memory: 4 GB
                                  Bus Speed: 800 MHz
                                  Boot ROM Version: MB41.00C1.B00
                                  SMC Version (system): 1.31f0

                                  I am working on a very basic sketchup model, I get a long lag time when I selected an area with the rectangle tool. I tried the Thawupinstallerbut it did not seem to help. Anyone know anything else that could be the root of this problem? Since I'm using SU7 will this not work for it? Thanks.

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                                    anttisykari
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm experiencing hangs as well; the usually occur when trying to select a line. The hangs take about 10 seconds. They occur only when "Hardware acceleration" is ticked in Preferences. Installing the ThawUp patch did not help.

                                    Sketchup version: 7.0.10248

                                    Video chipset: GMA X3100

                                    Model Name: MacBook
                                    Model Identifier: MacBook4,1
                                    Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
                                    Processor Speed: 2.1 GHz
                                    Number Of Processors: 1
                                    Total Number Of Cores: 2
                                    L2 Cache: 3 MB
                                    Memory: 4 GB
                                    Bus Speed: 800 MHz
                                    Boot ROM Version: MB41.00C1.B00
                                    SMC Version (system): 1.31f0

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                                      peter s
                                      last edited by

                                      hi&thanks for this great patch!

                                      i got pretty frustrated to see that my old p4 pc running sketchup on winxp easily outperforms my macbook due to the mentioned freezes...
                                      disabling fast feedback only did not help. if i disable hw acceleration, the freezes vanish. but of course you get visibly better performance using the patch. (btw, rotating large structures without hw accel on the mac looks about as "smooth" as with hw accel on the mentioned pc with geforce fx 5200 go)

                                      details:
                                      Video chipset: GMA X3100
                                      Model Name: MacBook
                                      Model Identifier: MacBook4,1
                                      Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
                                      Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
                                      Number Of Processors: 1
                                      Total Number Of Cores: 2
                                      L2 Cache: 3 MB
                                      Memory: 2 GB
                                      Bus Speed: 800 MHz
                                      Boot ROM Version: MB41.00C1.B00
                                      SMC Version (system): 1.31f0
                                      running SketchUp 7 (7.0.10938) on Mac OS X 10.5.8

                                      i wonder if 10.6 works any better - according to http://developer.apple.com/graphicsimaging/opengl/capabilities/ opengl implementetion has been worked on since 10.5.8 (version 2.0 for gma x3100 and 1.4 for gma 950 instead of 1.2 for both in leopard).

                                      regards
                                      peter

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