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    • R Offline
      redinhawaii
      last edited by

      Okay, could someone please tell me the "infinite wisdom" of the sketchup crew to create a "print to scale" monster as this?
      Was anyone awake at there developers meetings?
      This non ability to print to scale is not only frustrating, it clearly limits the potential of this program, in MHO.
      Aloha
      red
      p.s. tried the PDF thing too, it also was "not to scale"
      does anyone have any suggestions besides this trial and error method?
      Is layout any better?
      Or do I have to export to a real CAD program?

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        xrok1
        last edited by

        you need to go to camera and select parallel projection then select one of the preset views front, back, top .... not IsoCapture.JPG

        then go to print preview; check use model extents and make sure scale is 1 & 1
        Capture2.JPG

        if that dosn't work for you ????????????????

        “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

        http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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        • C Offline
          Charlie__V
          last edited by

          @zootsuit said:

          Hi

          When I try to print to scale, i.e 1mm in sketchup = 1m on page, Sketchup positions the image in the corner of the page so it's spread accross 4 or more pages . My model is a simple 2d plan and the entire dimensions are 210 x297 i.e. A4.

          Does anyone know how to centre the image on 1 page without losing the correct scale? If i try to type in the page dimensions (120,297) the print dialog box changes the scale as I type! Why is this happening?

          Many Thanks

          Zoot,

          Is this a typo......or is the model actually larger than the sheet you are trying to print to.
          If so........

          Best,

          C

          Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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            redinhawaii
            last edited by

            Thanks for the feedback,
            the model is an architectural model,
            if my print scale was 1 to 1 I would need 5402 pages!!!
            I want to "print to scale".
            I have tried 1"in drawing" to 8' in the "in model"
            it does not translate to printable scale.
            this seems not only odd but impractical.
            any other insights?
            thanks again for your time and experience
            aloha
            red
            p.s. I did try to "send to Layout"..followed the "new tips" info but my "sketchup Model"
            info menu does not highlight the supposed choices as mentioned in the tip?
            this is so nonintuitive...

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              xrok1
              last edited by

              @redinhawaii said:

              Thanks for the feedback,
              the model is an architectural model,
              if my print scale was 1 to 1 I would need 5402 pages!!!
              I want to "print to scale".
              I have tried 1"in drawing" to 8' in the "in model"
              it does not translate to printable scale.
              this seems not only odd but impractical.
              any other insights?
              thanks again for your time and experience
              aloha
              red
              p.s. I did try to "send to Layout"..followed the "new tips" info but my "sketchup Model"
              info menu does not highlight the supposed choices as mentioned in the tip?
              this is so nonintuitive...

              try 1" to 96" instead, who knows, might help. 😲
              i made an 8" by 8" face in SU then printed it 1"print = 8"model and it printed exactly 1" sq. so its a mystery.

              PS i just tried it with an 8' sq. face as well and it worked, both with 96" and 8' typed in the model scale box?
              how far of is your result?

              “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

              http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                redinhawaii
                last edited by

                Okay, I did finally figure out the Model scale issue in Layout, I had to click on the import within the template.
                now how do I get the background grey color out of the Sketchup Import?
                When I print straight from sketchup it does not print, when I import to LayOut,
                I get this background color.
                any insights?
                thanks
                aloha
                red

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                  xrok1
                  last edited by

                  go to styles and turn off the ground and sky, and make the background color white 😄 before you send to layout.

                  “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                  http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    Also, in LO > Tray > SU Model > Styles, uncheck Background colour an have only your model displayed. (Note that I have the grid on to show that there isn't any background colour and you can see what's "underneath".)

                    ScreenShot027.png

                    Gai...

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                      redinhawaii
                      last edited by

                      Thanks,
                      you guys are the best.
                      much appreciated.
                      aloha
                      red

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                      • K Offline
                        kaos
                        last edited by

                        Gidday

                        Have been searching for the holy grail on printing to scale , read lots of posts and on this matter it seems sketch up really falls short.

                        At times i have a need, particularly with simple 2d drawings with School students, to print their drawing to scale. Sometimes 1:1 for a template or say 1:5 for an orthographic view ( its required documentation).
                        The 3d modeling is fine and can deal with the model being sized by the zoom extents tool and fitting to a page.

                        Has there been any progress? , are using free version on Mac

                        thanks

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                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                          Chris Fullmer
                          last edited by

                          It does print to scale just fine - under one major limitation 😄

                          It only will print to scale when you are one of the default SketchUp views. Including Iso, Top, Bottom, Left, Right, Front , and Back.

                          Set the view mode to parallel projection, flip to a standard view and thn go print. You have to turn off "Fit To Page" then it will allow you to print to scale.

                          Another option that works very well (once you get used to it) is to do your printing from LayOut. It also lets you print to scale, and might even be more well adapted to it.

                          Hope that helps,

                          Chris

                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                            Chris Fullmer
                            last edited by

                            ok, so letse work through this step by step.

                            First, you are able to actually enter a desired scale in the print options box?

                            That is a big hurdle.

                            What scale do you want to print at? You enter 1" in the printout equals 8' in sketchup and that will make it print at 1" = 8' architectural scale.

                            So if you had a box that was 8' x 8', it would print out at 1" x 1" in paper.

                            Try that and see how it works out,

                            Chris

                            Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                            All my Plugins I've written

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                              kaos
                              last edited by

                              Sketch Up -Print Settings image.jpg
                              Thanks for the response

                              I have sent an image of my Mac document setting box (no particular settings entered)

                              Have tried many many options as suggested by lots of posts and sketch up help

                              I can't believe this problem exists given how prolific Sketch up is

                              I am using a Mac,sketch up 7 free version.FIT TO PAGE IS OFF ,PARALLEL VIEW IS SELECTED,USUALLY FRONT VIEW,TRY TO ENTER A SCALE LIKE 1:5, 1:10 but wont let me enter this. Page size changes when scales are entered. I am used to setting say A4 page ,a particular scale ,page orientation and then print in Vector Works which i use normally for 2D drawings

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                What I know of the Mac is that setting printing up is totally different from PC. There is not only a print setup but also a document setup dialog and this is all I can help since I should be able to see to proceed from here. Here is what the Guide says about printing on Mac:
                                http://download.sketchup.com/sketchuphelp/gsu6_mac/Content/K-Input_and_Output/Printing/IO-Print.htm

                                Gai...

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                                • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                  Chris Fullmer
                                  last edited by

                                  Wow! that is different than the PC print setup. That explains a few things.

                                  So if you try to set in drawing to 10mm and in model to 1000mm, that doesn't work? Does it not allow you to change those settings?

                                  Chris

                                  Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                  All my Plugins I've written

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                                  • P Offline
                                    pmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @gaieus said:

                                    What I know of the Mac is that setting printing up is totally different from PC. There is not only a print setup but also a document setup dialog and this is all I can help since I should be able to see to proceed from here. Here is what the Guide says about printing on Mac:
                                    http://download.sketchup.com/sketchuphelp/gsu6_mac/Content/K-Input_and_Output/Printing/IO-Print.htm

                                    Print quality setup and document setup dialogue are only available on the pro version according to this guide.

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      @pmiller said:

                                      Print quality setup and document setup dialogue are only available on the pro version according to this guide.

                                      That's obsolete (sorry, I should've mentioned). They forgot to change it when SU 6 ❗ came out. It's been available in the free version, too, for more than 2 years now. If you have a look at the currnet ❗ guide for animation export, it also says that it's a
                                      http://sketchup.google.com/crimages/welcome-Plus.jpg
                                      Pro only feature. But it's not.

                                      (Hopefully it will be changed soon).

                                      Gai...

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                                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                        Chris Fullmer
                                        last edited by

                                        Sorry, any chance you could use a format like .jpg or .png? .tiff is not a supported format on PC web browsers (at least not IE or firefox) so I can't see the image. Thanks!

                                        Sorry this is being such a pain,

                                        Chris

                                        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                        All my Plugins I've written

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                                        • GaieusG Offline
                                          Gaieus
                                          last edited by

                                          I think I should even disallow TIF's. There's no use for them anyway here and ultimately they can be zipped anyway. I can't open it either.

                                          Gai...

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                                          • K Offline
                                            kaos
                                            last edited by

                                            Mac Doc Set up window.jpg

                                            Sendingf again as a jpeg

                                            Printing what a pain!

                                            Perhaps its a Mac issue coupled with lack of proffessional version and operator incompetence

                                            I've attached the Doc window with the attempt to put in 10mm to 1000mm as Chris suggests.

                                            I had, on screen a 1000mm x 1000mm dimensioned square in front elevation, parrallel view

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