Hmm, its working now. here's a hint for the landscape architects, use scientific plant name pass phrases: rhaphiolepis indica killed xylosma congestum Time To Crack: 9.262673711748022e+25 centuries Total Passwords in Pattern: 280,000,000 Decillion Also, adding the double spaces in there really pumped up the crack time.

A bit late but never the less, I hope you had a good one Richard Mike

@rich o brien said: @unknownuser said: if these games were made as a tv series they proberly take the plunge too have you not seen the StreetFighter movie with Jean Claude Van Damme and Kylie Minogue? Probably the greatest game to big screen adaption ever. Random Govt Guy: Colonel, have you lost your mind? Van Damme: No, you lost your balls Yeah you said it John, I'm with you, times like this makes me think "I joined the wrong army"

Olympics next

@trogluddite said: @chrisglasier said: ...for use on line... ...the only owner being the manufacturer Which brings its own problems - ... Sorry I did not make the point clearly. It is the structure of the digital market I am concerned about. Rather than consider the distribution of software with products it seems beneficial to consider it as provision of services like public utilities - extension of the web sites on tap experiment (W3C protocols and development languages being the utility). All the arguments about competitiveness and so on apply to both ways, but the big plus for utilities is the avoidance of currently unresolvable ownership issues.

It looks like Higgs Boson has been hiding at the SketchUcation forum. [image: vHGu_AGodParticle.jpg]

Mike, could we see an animation of that upper deck in a hurricane?

I can see that being a treasured gift - also neat to show the kids when they get old enough to appreciate the work that went into saving their lives.

Well, it's clear that for me posting to this thread is too time consuming, unless my intended standard is lowered... from the quintessential to the fantabuloso. I hope there are at least occasional posts from others consistent with the thread to whet the appetites and expand the palates and familiarity of the interested. Ben Monder. What the video lacks in audio quality is made up for in revealing the apparent intensity and devotion of the artist. To me, his compositions seem reverential more often than not. [flash=560,360:11mgdhc9]http://www.youtube.com/v/vOelOvwpR0w[/flash:11mgdhc9] Sleep Theo Bleckmann and Ben Monder - Animal Planet [image: DFPF_benmonder-1.JPG] Ben Monder ~ no bump ~ Kurt Rosenwinkel - Heartcore - All the Way to Rajasthan

Back online, the site is. [image: mTJn_respectexistence.JPG]

Yes that OWS poster is American, just told from a foreign point of view to make a comparison. Student debt in-total in the US has surpassed credit card debt (which we all know has long been out of hand). So what are we going to be doing with all these young people without work, already having crippling debt? They sure aren't going to be buying those cars and houses, which we so like to base our economy on. And meanwhile I have a couple friends in Canada, now retired, who are obtaining advanced degrees at university FOR FREE! So yeah, wtf?

Try this: Filehippo Update Checker It simply scans what you have installed and then pops up a browser window of apps/drivers that are out of date, its up to you if you want to download and install them. While your at it get CCleaner and Defrag if you havent already, both are free. I use CCleaner about one a week to not only get rid of the accumulated junk that Windows acquires but to check and kill a lot of the unnecessary processes that start with Windows. As for AVG, I personally got rid of it yonks ago after it started to 'infect' my browsers with it toolbars etc. I use Avast on my XP machines and MS's own Security Essentials on Win7

Gosh!... I'l never get any work done - thinking of starting a PDF CAD trials prog.

At around 35°C (~95°F) here it is indeed refreshing!

Lively is dead and so it deserves to be, it looked like crap and it played like crap, but the idea of having a virtual space would be great, I create alot of my models on the same theme but with such large files and so many of them it's virtually impossible to display them in a scene, if there were virtual space available imagine the possibilities, allowing others to vertically walk your virtually masterpieces and vice versa, it doesn't have to be a virtual social mmo, just a space to create a visualisation, being anything, leave out all this avatar crap which they messed this lively concept up with, virtual space should be something available to SU users for creating large scenes, more or less like a game engine with built in renders and so on but for SU users.

I spent way too long looking at this site yesterday - some increibly evocative images in there.

http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=45836&start=0

As Cmdr Lovell [aka Tom Hanks] says in 'Apollo 13', when he's interviewed before the mission and he's asked what he foresees in the future: "I see a computer that will fit in a single room...". There's also the bit when they have to calculate their emergency reentry angles etc using a pencil and paper and slide-rules... Then the guys at mission-control recheck the answers the same way calling check, check, check etc... Their 70's on-board computer was less than an 80's pocket-calculator and way below a modern cell-phone, let alone any modern computer..

The moon landings had one critical aspect lacking in most of the more recent space projects... ...it was a race! A race with real live all American heroes vs. the dreaded 'commies', in a time when folks still fully expected the eventual winners to plant their flag and begin colonisation a few weeks later, with all kinds of cool 'stuff' like they saw in the movies. And then they just bought back some stones and dust, and some holiday snaps of a big grey rock with dents in it. Hell, it wasn't even made of cheese after all that effort! Sadly, most of Joe public don't give a rodent's posterior about the scientific value of space exploration any more (or science in general)- all they see is geeky people chewing their way through this boring stuff called 'data', and maybe if you're lucky a few pretty false-colour pictures of something incomprehensible. Stick some random people they never met before in a field and get them to slug it out to see who is best at doing something utterly pointless - they'll buy in some beers, and sit there glued to it. I apologise for my cynicism - but, as I see it, unless/until the Chinese catch up enough to lend space exploration an element of competition again, I just don't think it has the 'bread and circuses' appeal to win anything like the public backing that it enjoyed back then. Folks might accidentally miss a celebrity wedding or some such trivial nonsense, and that just wouldn't do! At the very least, the public like to see real people "boldy go" up there, so that they can identify with their trials and tribulations (tribble-ations?) - but that is the most expensive, inefficient and scientifically restrictive way to find out anything of value. I'm not suggesting that it is a worthless thing to do, but when projects are struggling for funding, it just isn't going to happen. Still, I don't really feel as if our generation has 'nothing'. Maybe what we have is less 'visceral' somehow, but I never cease to be fascinated by the incredible things that have been discovered by projects like the Hubble telescope etc. In fact, I kind of like the idea that these incredible far-away things are not sullied by humans going up there to 'sensationalise' and trivialise them - science without the 'soap-opera' aspect. I doubt that the aliens want us out there anyway - at least not until we've learned to behave ourselves in our little play-pen a bit better!

[flash=600,370:3act613h]http://www.youtube.com/v/IwPHy17Iu6E[/flash:3act613h]