Couldn't found any of this in right size but I found Arctic Cooling ARCTIC F12 TC that was sheep and have some good reviews. (49:-)

Search for a case fan because it is just one in the case and read that Scythe Gentle Typhoon was really good but how good do I need, there is 500, 800, 1150, 1450, 1850, 3000 and 4250 rpm. The prices is near the same so that doesn't matter but I don't want it to sound more that I really need.

The true spirit 140 normally cost 459:- but now it's 25% discount so it cost just 344:- = 40€

Thank you for the tip, found out that the true spirit is really good if you look on this test
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/xigmatek-prime-thermalright-true-spirit-140_7.html
I found this for just 344:- and the other one that you talk about I just found on one or two websites and was mush expensiver so the spirit is enought for me. Right now I am on 8391:- = 967€

The prices have get up littel and the graphic card I had choose doesn't sells anymore so now I am just over 8 000kr and look for a cooler. I have read that Noctua make the best air cooler but I don't now if I would chosse the extrem Noctua NH-D14(679:-), mayby the littel cheaper NOCTUA NH-U12P(525:-) or NOCTUA NH-U9B SE2(425:-)

Found a new website with some nice prices so now I have this:

KFA2 GeForce GTX 550 Ti - grafikkort - GF GTX 550 Ti 816:-

MICROSOFT WINDOWS 7 HOME PREM SP1 64-BIT SWE DVD#OEM 834:-

INTEL CORE I7 3770K 3.5GHZ 8MB S-1155 IVY 2 641:-

CORSAIR 16GB DDR3 XMS3 PC12800 1600MHZ (2X8GB) 562:-

SEASONIC S12 II 620W PSU 748:-

COOLER MASTER MIDITOWER ELITE 310 ATX BLACK/ORANGE 290:-

Samsung SH-224BB - DVD±RW- (±R DL-) / DVD-RAM-en 154:-

ASRock Z77 PRO3 Intel Z77 4xDDR3 CrossFireX Socket 1155 ATX 825:-

Intel 330 Series 180GB SSD R:500/W:450 2.5" SATA-3 989:-

Total 7 859:-

After some serach i found GTX 550 TI so now I think to buy this:

ASUS GEFORCE GTX 550 TI 1GB PCI-E DVI/HDMI 1040:-

MICROSOFT WINDOWS 7 HOME PREM SP1 64-BIT SWE DVD#OEM 901:-

INTEL CORE I7 3770K 3.5GHZ 8MB S-1155 IVY 2 675:-

CORSAIR 16GB DDR3 XMS3 PC12800 1600MHZ (2X8GB) 629:-

SEASONIC S12 II 620W PSU 890:-

COOLER MASTER MIDITOWER ELITE 310 ATX BLACK/ORANGE 290:-

ASUS DRW-24B5ST DVD±R/RW/RAM DL 24X SATA BLACK 169:-

ASRock Z77 PRO3 Intel Z77 4xDDR3 CrossFireX Socket 1155 ATX 825:-

Intel 330 Series 180GB SSD R:500/W:450 2.5" SATA-3 989:-

Total 8 408:-

Have look on different cpu cooler from Noctua and have also found Zalman CNPS12X CPU Cooler that cost just 169:- insted of 675:- but it's temporarily out of stock.

@numerobis said:

To get a rough overview of the available cards you should maybe take a look at the linked comparison chart on tomshardware...

nvidia names the faster cards of a line "GTX" and the slower ones "GT". I think everything under "50" (GTX550 or GTX650) is named GT now.
Like i said before, i would look for a GTX 560 or GTX 560 TI. They are available with 1GB and 2GB RAM and different coolers from different brands.
Everything above is too energy consuming for daily sketchup work - in my opinion (and is too expensive and runs too hot).
The newer 6xx series seems to be not so good for professional 3D work.

I found Asus GTX560 1GB PCI-E DC for 1 549:- but when I read reviews it often comes up what it's overpriced, if I now have to buy a graphic card to I mayby need a better PSU and then I found this at the same price as the other but it is at 650 W and it's gold certified FRACTAL DESIGN TESLA R2 650W WHITE.
I have found that the company that cell windows 7 for 819:- have rais it to 949:- so now I mayby take windows 8 instead.

Do you have any tip for another good graphic card in a little cheaper price class?

(I think I am up in about 8 000 kr now I think it is little too much)

@numerobis said:

I would say this looks good now...

But i think you misunderstood my hint for the video card?!? I didn't mean that a GTX 430/440 would be better than the intel graphics, but that the HD4000 is almost at the same level like the worst available video cards on the market and that something like a GTX 560 (TI) would be much better...

But if you buy an active cooled card you should watch out for noisy fans... better read some reviews.

How about a CPU cooler?

If I search around on the website there i want to buy it from, what would i look for to know if it´s good ore not if i dont want to search over google every time? Is higher number in GeForce GT(X) (number) better and what does the X stands for?

Okey, after your tip I have change it to this:

ASRock Z77 PRO3 Intel Z77 4xDDR3 CrossFireX Socket 1155 ATX 825:-

Intel 330 Series 180GB SSD R:500/W:450 2.5" SATA-3 989:-

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM Swedish SP1 819:-

SEASONIC S12 II 620W PSU 890:-

GIGABYTE GEFORCE GT 430 2GB PCI-E VGA/DVI/HDMI 566:-

INTEL CORE I7 3770K 3.5GHZ 8MB S-1155 IVY 2 590:-

COOLER MASTER MIDITOWER ELITE 310 ATX BLACK/ORANGE 290:-

CORSAIR 16GB DDR3 XMS3 PC12800 1600MHZ (2X8GB) 639:-

ASUS DRW-24B5ST DVD±R/RW/RAM DL 24X SATA BLACK RETAIL 169:-

Total for me with student discount 7 727:- = 880 euro

@gaieus said:

As Numerobis said, you need to take the video card into account, too. Some mid-to-high range cards can be rather power demanding.

I now that some graphic card need much power but as i say, i don't going to buy any graphic card, the intel hd graphic 4000 that is in the intel core i7 proseccor is enough for me.

I found that proccesor later, was looking at 1155 sockets.

When i look at http://www.enermax.outervision.com/index.jsp and fill in all the information i know it says that i need a PSU on 394 W. I now that you need to have some margin but i think 650W is littel overkill.

I found a 16 gig ram for 589:- so i take that insted, not any big different.

I have change the processor to intel core i7 3770K(can't find the i7 3930)
When it comes to PSU I get a tip to look after good "80 Plus certified" and then i change it to CORSAIR CX 500W BRONZE ATX12V 2.3 POWER SUPPLY(is 500W enough?)

Dustin

Dustin, Dustinhome

(www.dustinhome.se)

This would be 6 706:- = 768 euro

Would it be a big different if a choose 1600 MHz insted of 1333 MHz?

Can get CORSAIR 16GB DDR3 XMS3 PC12800 1600MHZ (2X8GB) for 639:- (140:- more)

@numerobis said:

sorry, i don't know what you want to say concerning the cpu... the 3770K runs 100MHz faster but the real advantage is that it has an unlocked multiplier so you can easily overclock it. If you don't need this, you can go with the non-K-version. That was all i wanted to say.

I don't know the MSI board, but i don't think it is bad. When you for reviews on google there is one that says it has a bed performance, but i don't know nore about it.
Like i said above, ASRock normally makes very good and cheap boards, so i would buy the ASRock Z77 Pro3. You can find some reviews:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1998/15/
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4852/asrock_z77_pro3_intel_z77_motherboard_review/index12.html

I have look around on another website and switch to that board you recomend and now i think to buy this:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM Swedish SP1 819:-
Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Socket 1155 2 439:- (+240 for 17-3770K)
Intel 330 Series 180GB SSD R:500/W:450 2.5" SATA-3 949:-
ASRock Z77 PRO3 Intel Z77 4xDDR3 CrossFireX Socket 1155 ATX 829:-
OCZ MODXSTREAM PRO 600 WATT PSU 640:-
CORSAIR 16GB DDR3 VALUE SELECT PC10666 1333MHZ (2X8GB) 499:-
ASUS DRW-24B5ST DVD±R/RW/RAM DL 24X SATA BLACK 169:-
COOLER MASTER MIDITOWER ELITE 310 ATX BLACK/ORANGE 276:-
100:- discount
Total 6 520:- = 755 euro
Will this computer be good to rendering in sketchup with vray?

@numerobis said:

@vigge50 said:

I found wimdows 7 for just 769:-(821:-less)
I change the intel core i7 3770k to i7 3770 and save 360:-
i take away the watercooler but i think a going to buy some fans insted
So now i am down on just 6 151:- and have money over for a better graphic card

Yes, but once again... i would not buy such a cheap noname psu and risk an unstable system or a hardware damage. And the 12v rail should have at least 30A for the video card (or two separated 12v rails with 30A+ combined).
I don't know if overclocking would be an option for you in the future... then the K-version would be the better choice.

What I can see it isn't what much diffrent between the 3770 and 3770k http://ark.intel.com/compare/65523,65719

I read that the motherboard i chose mayby isn´t that good that i thougth, do you now if intels own good? like INTEL DESKTOP BOARD DH77EB H77 S-1155 M-ATX?

@solo said:

@unknownuser said:

I have discount at Dell to but there every computer have windows 8 from the begining and neither sketchup or vray support windows 8 so then i can't use it for that.

Not true, I am using Windows 8 and everything works perfectly.

okey, just search on google and read some forum but see now that it was very old, does booth sketchup and vray work on windows 8?

@numerobis said:

A sorry... swedish i was led to the danish HP site as i searched for the model number

Yes, this looks much better i would say...

• The board is good. But very high prices for the processor and the board

• The Intel 330 is ok, i think. The ones i listed would be a bit better as 256GB model
  Best price/performance ratio at the moment has Samsung 830.
  http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-330-review-benchmark,3190-7.html

• 1600MHz RAM would be only slightly better (but only maybe 2%) but should be almost in the same price range.

• The watercooler is nice but not needed if you want to save money - and it could be even more quiet with a slow speed big air cooler.

• is this windows 7 Pro or Home? This looks like the Retail version. There should be a system builder version for about half this price.

• The PSU is still a bit weak, for this config without dedicated video card it's enough, but if you add a card that pulls ~150W (GTX 560 TI). PSUs normally have the best efficiancy at 50-60% power draw. And i'm not sure about the quality and efficiancy of this codegen PSU.

• Case fans are not allways needed. The airflow of the CPU cooler (and the PSU) can be enough. But then it would be better if the video card fan blows the heat out on the back.

I found wimdows 7 for just 769:-(821:-less)
I change the intel core i7 3770k to i7 3770 and save 360:-
i take away the watercooler but i think a going to buy some fans insted
So now i am down on just 6 151:- and have money over for a better graphic card

@numerobis said:

both are not really optimal...
but the second one would be slightly better - if you change the video card ...and the RAM

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/dk/da/ho/WF06b/12454-12454-3329740-64546-64546-5187028-5263245.html?dnr=1

• i7 2600 = "last" gen i7 - 3770 would be the better choice
• H61 = "old" chipset
• VERY weak PSU, only 300W - absolutely no headroom for a better videocard
• only 8GB RAM and only 2 memory slots, no upgrade possible

more than 900€? Is this true?!?
This is really too much for these specs...

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c03418598&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=5258496&prodTypeId=12454

• i7 3770 = OK

• Z75 = OEM chipset? i don't know - but better than the other one if it is derived from the Z77 chip

• weak PSU (430W)

• only 6GB RAM (WTF... why 6?!? this is a Dual Channel chipset - should be 4, 8 or 16GB!)

• both have very slow video cards, but the nvidia with a noisy fan on it - should be possible as passive card with a decent airflow in the case. But a stronger nvidia card would be better.

• both have NO SSD! I would add a 256GB SSD - 128GB would be ok too, but will have a ~20% slower write performance.

• i would say at least 16GB RAM

What is your budget?
Why HP? Looks very expensive and unflexible if i look at the config options...
(16GB RAM = +$240 , 256GB SSD = +$300 )

I think you should look for a local shop and let them build a custom config for you if you can't do it yourself

• i7 3770K ~280€ (3,5GHz and could be overclocked) or 3770 (3,4GHz, no overclocking possible) ~265€
• a good cooler, maybe Thermalright True Spirit 120 Rev. A ~25€ (or HR-2 Macho or Macho 120)
• Z77 mainboard with 4 RAM slots, maybe ASRock Z77 Pro3 ~80€ (cheap and good)
• 2x8GB RAM (Corsair or Kingston DDR3-1600) ~60€
• a good 256GB SSD, Samsung 830 or Crucial M4 ~165€ (or 128GB ~90€)
• 1TB (?) HDD 7200UPM ~60€
• nvidia video card, maybe GTX 560TI 2GB ~ 220€
• DVD Writer ~15€
• a good ~500W PSU (at least 80+ bronze efficiancy with quiet fan), maybe Seasonic S12 520W ~60€
• Midi case with 120mm or 140mm fans (bigger = slower = more quiet) ~40€
• Windows 7 Pro x64 System builder (OEM) ~100€
• assembling and installation ~50-100€

3770K = ~1200€ or 8952 DKK

i have now look around littel and find this:8price in swedish crowns)
INTEL CORE I7 3770K 3.5GHZ 8MB S-1155 IVY 2799:-
MSI Z77A-G43 Z77 S-1155 ATX IVY 890:-
INTEL 330 SERIES 2.5" 180GB SSD SATA/600 MLC 25NM 995:-
CORSAIR 16GB DDR3 VALUE SELECT PC10666 1333MHZ (2X8GB) 499:-
ASUS DRW-24B5ST DVD±R/RW/RAM DL 24X SATA BLACK RETAIL 169:-
ANTEC KÜHLER H2O 620 LIQUID COOLING S-1156/2011/1366/1155/AM2/AM2+/AM3 490:-
CODEGEN MIDITOWER 6243-A11 460W PSU BLACK/SILVER 390:-
windows 7 1590:-
Total this is 7 822:-=904€
And now i have not count with grapic card.
the chassi have a psu on 460W but not any fans

@numerobis said:

both are not really optimal...
but the second one would be slightly better - if you change the video card ...and the RAM

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/dk/da/ho/WF06b/12454-12454-3329740-64546-64546-5187028-5263245.html?dnr=1

• i7 2600 = "last" gen i7 - 3770 would be the better choice
• H61 = "old" chipset
• VERY weak PSU, only 300W - absolutely no headroom for a better videocard
• only 8GB RAM and only 2 memory slots, no upgrade possible

more than 900€? Is this true?!?
This is really too much for these specs...

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c03418598&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=5258496&prodTypeId=12454

• i7 3770 = OK

• Z75 = OEM chipset? i don't know - but better than the other one if it is derived from the Z77 chip

• weak PSU (430W)

• only 6GB RAM (WTF... why 6?!? this is a Dual Channel chipset - should be 4, 8 or 16GB!)

• both have very slow video cards, but the nvidia with a noisy fan on it - should be possible as passive card with a decent airflow in the case. But a stronger nvidia card would be better.

• both have NO SSD! I would add a 256GB SSD - 128GB would be ok too, but will have a ~30% slower write performance.

• i would say at least 16GB RAM

What is your budget?
Why HP? Looks very expensive and unflexible if i look at the config options...
(16GB RAM = +$240 , 256GB SSD = +$300 )

I am a student so I have a limited budget but I have some studendiscount at HP and there for i can get the second one for about 860 euro- 10%. I have discount at Dell to but there every computer have windows 8 from the begining and neither sketchup or vray support windows 8 so then i can't use it for that. A have tought a bit of mayby a mac but they is little to expensive.

@solo said:

1st one, Nvidia card preferred over AMD and more ram.

Isn´t it better to have a fast proccessor or is the grafik card more impotent? Want to get the rendering to be finich as fast as possible.