@remus said:

Indigo indeed, and it only took 18 hours

18 hours! that's like watching paint dry Seriously, though that's not a good carbon footprint. Look at all the electricity that was used just to make a 2d light bulb, look 3d.

Are we all going insane?

@unknownuser said:

I think that image can help those with 'one direction only' find a way to switch. Why? Take a closer look at each individual frame. I can easily see all those intermediate frames between those when the position of the lady IS certain, as a lady facing me or showing her back !

Our imagination decides if we see the front or the back because the silhouette doesn't define it exactly.
Tomasz

We, in the western world, learn the process of reading at an early age. That process involves recognizing individual patterns. Furthermore each of us spends a lot of time associating those patterns of letters with words, that pattern recognition process just happens to start at the left and ends at the right. But not in all languages follow reading patterns from left to right.
(Unfortunately after many years of education sadly today, many have not mastered that process)

Even the individual pictures you placed in your picture are assumed to be read left to right just as we read text, followed by line after line.

Many years ago, before computers. The Type that was produced by newspapers required a person that was a Typesetter by profession. These Typesetters had to layout each newspaper page by installing individual blocks of type, each block contained one letter, those letters were mirror images of each letter of type, and had to be placed as a mirror image of the page so that the offset press would then print the page. A Typesetter had to be able to pick individual blocks of letters which were mirrored as well as be able to place those blocks into words that he had to be able to spell and read backwards, as he or she was laying out a page for printing.

Hence I don't think this has anything to do with imagination, or right versus left brain thinking.

adding more fuel to this thread:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20090318&articleId=12793

I just caught a glimpse, just before she was sliding down the pole.
(I gotta get that checked out soon!)

I don't think a society that's busy watching reality TV, Facebooking itself and Twittering will be at all concerned!

Does SU have a way to deform surfaces, as either the Red object or the White object in the attached pic shows, or do I still need to use Rhino or Moi, to make such deformations. TIA

Thanks everyone! Cleanup_model.rb did the trick!
with thanks to John H. Aughey for the script.

@unknownuser said:

Yes
D.B Tools / Clean Selection

whats the correct name?, I can't find it via searching! TIA

Is there a Ruby that's capable of scouring an object and remove excess lines that are on the same surface ?
The attached pic shows what I mean.

I have both. I love the new I-MAC. It looks great. I set it to dual boot, which now defaults to XP.
I also bought the new mac key board and mouse for my PC. (LOL)

I love the drag and drop interface of the MAC. Not many PC applications have even heard of this feature, yet. But, If you visit the MAC forum, I see they have problems similar to PC users.

I run simply to many applications that are PC based that I can't afford to give up. In the mean time the I-MAC just sits there looking pretty

@chrisglasier said:

Yes I can understand you link webdialogs only with games, but similar links were made in the past with the introduction of personal computers - "just toys for hobbyists to play around with." If during the design process, you contact manufacturers or suppliers via phone, fax or website, then in the future webdialogs may well offer you a more direct and useful method to interact with them.
Chris

I didn't link webdialogs to games. It was Scott's introduction of how webdialogs and Ruby will allow us to play games within SU. Its his example not mine.
However there seems to be a prevailing attitude today among programmers and large companies in the software industry that they think they can make life easier for users if they can link more and more features into their product. It reminds me of the shopping mall we visit instead of the corner store. Hence a simple product like Nero which burn CD/DVD's becomes Bloatware. Why Adobe Reader now has ballooned to take up 85MB of HDD space. Or why AutoCad that once came on 6 * 1.44 diskettes (remember what they were?) now comes on a DVD. To this date none of these products functions in any better than they did when they were first introduced, and just like SU the changes over time are barely preceptable.

@chrisglasier said:

@l.frisken said:

how does one communicate with google about these issues?

I guess first there is a need to demonstrate a consensus within SCF ...

Chris its hard to build a consensus now. The various users of SU have expanded to too many other areas, after it was bought by Google. I'm still one of the old Architectural type users. I don't need Webdialogs nor do I have a need to play games within SketchUp via Web dialogs, but perhaps a few need that option.

If you want to communicate with Google try: Scott Lininger, SketchUp Software Engineer you can PM him via:
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=13666

@kwistenbiebel said:

A wishlist for SU8? Nah.....

I don't think people want to get into a wishlist for SU 8 as making one for SU 7 turned out to be a useless endeavour.

How much of what users really wanted made it into 7? Close to nada?

The question that pops up is how you guys see the future for Sketchup.
One without Google doing development and relying on ruby plugins solely?

What is the risk of SU becoming full ruby oriented ?
Is the Sketchup core reliable enough for that? etc...

A poll.

I have to agree. "If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride"
Lets have a look at the financial side:

Lets say you had 1,000,000 people buying SU @ $500.00, (which I doubt) that would translate into $500,000.000 in sales,
Compare that to Googles $5.7b/quarter * 4quarters = $22,800,000.000 from their advertising per year. When you weigh the profits from the advertising versus the sales from SU. I can see why the efforts on the SU side are slim to invisible.

Maybe starting an "SU Annoyances" thread would attract more attention

@bagatelo said:

Another possibility would be the script to configure closed doors automatically in a layer, and open doors in other, for us to show to our customers the closets with open and closed doors.

use the "search this topic" Type in doortool and you arrive at my DoorTool thread.

Just a reminder of another forgotten moment in our 20th century history!

I was amazed at the Lenses on the Cameras on the Tower that the TV cameras are on. Where do you get a 2' long Telephoto lens like that? And what would it cost?
Ouch!

@unknownuser said:

If it makes you feel any better, the sponge isn't in there just to cheat you out of ink - It provides the necessary back-pressure to prevent the ink from drooling out of the cartridge. All inkjet cartridges need to have some back-pressure so that you don't get ink dripping out of the printhead when the printer is idle. ...

No! It does not make me feel any better, Whenever I take out my fountain pen, for signing in a public setting, people are always amazed. Most have never seen a real Fountain pen. Fountain Pens don't have a drooling problem.
Perhaps the fountain pen solution should have been adapted for the printer.

@kdsdesign said:

and its amazing to learn that i was drunk when i posted that

Well I wish you had not been so honest about that.
I'm now calling for a whole new industry, to being established,
where you can't logon to a computer without proof you have not been drinking

@unknownuser said:

I'm not fueling the fire, but merely making Jesse James' day. Actually, I'm just the messenger. Greg will be making Jesse's day.

http://groups.google.com/group/sketchupruby/browse_thread/thread/40b5b924ab1c90d5#

At that link, you'll find an announcement for SuPy, a plugin to use Python as your scripting language.

Todd

I've always been suspicious that JJ's avatar, was helping him to be a "make my day" kind of guy Regardless, I hope we can all take the main contents of this thread with a little more sense of humor, and good intention, rather than looking at it as a Ruby versus Python debate.
Perhaps we can end up with a second scripting alternative. Which I think would would be a huge plus. To the general SU user this would a non issue in any event. But as CPhillips has noted. It sure would be nice to hear from Google.

I'm a really stupid consumer, I admit it. To buy this stuff and then pay for the printer as well. I just bought 2 black ink cartridge, cost $47.00. The actual dimensions of the plastic enclosure of each cartridge is .5" x 1.25" x 1.5". Now within that enclosure is a sponge that is soaked with the black ink. Imagine that!.... How very clever.....to further reduce the amount of ink in a cartridge by adding a sponge. Its sheer genius, that's why they pay big bucks to people that can come up with this kind of marketing and product design.

Folks we really deserve to be spanked and taken to the cleaners. If we don't vote with our wallets.

Now check out the price you're paying for a gallon of computer ink.
http://www.cockeyed.com/science/gallon/liquid.html