Thanks guys, I got your answers and samples were quite useful. Thanks.

That ceiling is odd. That is not the typical pixels out of synch with the texture kind of look.
--Strange

Real architecture has no front

Was the 3RD presentation done in layout? It is Dac Biet.

Has anyone converted sketchup to 3D PDF? If so any comments on how well it works or better yet any samples available?

Am I correct that the texture tweaker is not avaialable within grouped objects?

What is the story behind the guard towers in the background?

Even though the ocean is covered with small wavelets the sub cuts into the water with a razor sharp straight line. What about rippelign the line a touch and adding some small white froth where the waves splash agains the hull?

If the sub were more modern I would suggest a shower sandal and a broken foam cooler floating in the foreground for added realism.

Mon Ami, under the Materials editor, go to the Outline option and you will have a choice of none, weak, normal,strong.
When you get a chance to resume the rendering please post the result so we can see the difference.

-- Roger

Regis Kerky DOES have lines, but you have to select the lines and apply a line command. Are you using 2007 or 2008?

OK now I have moved into Kerkythea and am awaiting client comments. While I wait, I will download KT 2008 Echo and install it. For some reason I could not make the photo visible when it imported to KT so I had to cheat with PhotoShop. I also have to replace those two funeral directors in the hall with some suits from Armani.

How long before this process becomes effortless? I thought nothing could be easier than a long straight hall. NOT!

I tore the model apart and rebuilt almost from scratch and the results were worth it. Even convinced my son to pose as the delivery man. I wonder what it will cost me?

The photo on the right wall is one that I shot of an old abandoned Buddhist temple in Vietnam. That was 30 to 40 years ago. I have been wondering when it would come in handy.

The closest wall were looking to saturated and pink. I could not get the color I wanted so I put a false wall behind the camera and painted it blue. Then I put a light behind the camera reflect a blue light into the scene which gave me the eact lighting I was looking for. Its cheating but it worked.

There is a small technical glitch in marseillan-vitres.jpg. The bottom of the seawall is resting on the horizon line and that could not happen at the viewers altitude.

Having said that, these are a very nice set of renderings.

Re: the moon it would add more depth if the arch of the bridge bisected it forcing the moon into the visual distance.

Still an excellant series of images.

The modeler didn't fully understand the shape and tried to do it with a lot of straight lines that did not really fit. Don't get me wrong it was generally a nice model but the bow looked like a bunch of toothpics glued together.

Nautical architects, as you may know, lay down a set of frames evenly spaced along a keel and then skin the resulting form. If I had built the model from scratch I think I would have used a similar approach when I neared the compound curves of the bow.

A few minutes with the photoshop airbrush fixed the problem.

There were two minor problems with the Alamo. One, the modler did the flagpole, but didn't want to mess with doing a flag. Two, The shadows were two deep on the photoapplied textures but again when in photShop I just dodged the shadows and lightened things up bit.

I do a news letter for a group of Vietnam era combat photographers. Every year they have a seminar/meeting. They were going to hold it in San Antonio the home of the Alamo but hotel prices got too high and the available times slipped into the heat of the Texas summer. So they changed plan when they were offered a military rate by a cruise company. Dince I don't really make any money putting their newsletter together, I need a quick and efficient way to compose the cover art for the newsletter. I could have done it old school and taken a lot of time doing an illustration, but SketchUp allowed me to explore a lot of spatial relationships between the Alamo and the cruise ship and then snapshot the preferred result.

Considering theis was a quicky assembled from 3D warehouse components, I was quite pleased with the results. I had to fix the construction of the ships bow in photoshop but the models were really quite good out of the box. It was just a matter of establishing the right relationships and then picking the best camera angle and viewpoint.

Roger Hawkins, ASMP
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I hate objectivity, it is often a mask for lack of involvement and enthusiasm. I am a total KT fan, but I still cower in front of the perceived complexity. I am an old school guy who used to start technical pens on the back of his hand. No I am even more old school than that. I used drafting pends and pennies taped under plastic triangles so the ink did not run underneath. And I still do architectural photography with 4 x 5 inch film (on rare occasions.

I can write some decent html and ccs and even a very small amount of PHP, but real programming is either beyond me or just not where I really want to go. But if you tell me the interface for materials and lighting is improved that gives me enough courage to crawl back to the firing line for another go at the learning curve. Thanks to the KT team.

"Ancora Imparo"

I am getting ready to render the long hallway of the tiltup building I recently rendered. This is just an approval sketch before I move into the final render. Never thought I would be using the photo of the Buddhist temple this way when I made filmed it 40 years ago in Vietnam. Maybe some good Karma will result.

I think I will wander over to Sorgesu's web site and look at the entourage she has to offer. I need some better people and am too busy to try rolling my own.

Any suggestions before I jump into the render.

Also need to download KT Echo 2008. What is the relearning curve like?

You need to open a realworld gallery. You are producing some great stuff amd Solos texture blended in well. I can actually come to this forum just for the pure fun of it. You have an audience or maybe following would be a better word.

Stu, how did you define the water material in KT? Was it a thin glass? What if any photoShop work did you do? How did you define the lights and sky?

I have run into unintentional implementations of this twice. Once I was racing a Hobie cat sailing catamaran off the coast of Laguna Beach, California and I thought I was being followed by a jet plane. Looked around and there was nothing but wind and waves. I was on a broad reach, had one hull out of the water and was really smokin. Then it occured to me that the wind in the rigging and the tension created by the hull slipping through the water were setting up vibrations that was causing the whole rig to sing in a high pitched whine.

More recently I was biking along the southern outskirts of Phoenix next to the Tohono O'Odham reservation and I was sure that I was being followed by a flying saucer. It was the same sound as saucers make in Sci Fi movies. Actually raised the hair on the back of my neck which is the only hair I still have left to raise. Then I realized it was wind setting up vibrations in the high tension wires far above the roadway. Even though I now knew what it was I looked back a few times just to be sure I was not being followed.

Increible y mas profundo! You have my vote. History, Spain, ruins, and sketchUp. You have hit a long list of my hot buttons.

Perdoname, pero mi esposa dice yo hablo Espanol como Tarzan.