this maybe solved by a simple trick via Dave
Hi, I have set up a set of components to add in electric sockets and lights. They have a simple set of attributes to set height above floor level, as well as number of switches/ sockets which resizes the plate and numbā¦
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Sorry my bad, should have said spin port not spin wheel, which may have confused you.
You have tried it the other way round, you should wrap the component with the animation in another then change this new component to the same axis.
So with your original, select the spinport and the guide and make this a component, then right click change axis, (hide rest of model) and place
the rotation is in reference to the parent environment, so the wrapper acts as a shield or bridge between the two axes or worlds
I wrapped the spin wheel in another component with the same axis as the spin wheel. This serves as a reference for the motion within the same plane, axes, "world"
@jql said:
Philip I see you have Outliner always open, I used to have that until I noticed it was delaying plugins a lot. Don't you use plugins?
yes, there are significant delays whilst using a plugin, "rolling up" this dialog resolves this. At this stage I use the outliner a lot, so until this changes, I am quite happy to occasionally forget then roll it up.
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@unknownuser said:
, could you post a screen shot of how you have yours set up?
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by all means...
you can create different size trays and park them on the other screen, plus I have DC option placed too
you can leave the default or some pinned as well? but I find that the placed ones less annoying.
Hi John,
is it possible to either load an example of the skp file here or on the warehouse (or another cloud server) with a reference to it.
With regards the new trays, they take a bit of getting use to, however they are well suited to a two screen setup once you have made a few unpinned custom ones to suit your workflow
Hi
It is possible to create components with ruby code, but i believe its much easier to use the ruby code to load a defined component and position it,
I will continue with the pipe line DC, I created earlier and develop that.
If you look at the cylinder code in the linetool example,
%(#000080)[vec = pt2 - pt1
length = vec.length
if( length == 0.0 )
UI.beep
puts "Cannot create a zero length cylinder"
return
end]
I used that as the starting point, initially changing the cylinder for a simple line.
I now need to load a component and scale, then rotate it to the line created.
%(#0000BF)[path = Sketchup.find_support_file('rod.skp', 'Plugins/su_examples/')
definitions = Sketchup.active_model.definitions
definition = definitions.load(path)]
to get a scaling factor I saved the pipe line DC with a length of 1 meter and used that to scale to the length of the line. I loaded that DC to the su_examples folder
http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.0/Math.html
gives the syntax for the maths
being a roof carpenter, I used my knowledge of the relationship between a rafter and a hip (bevel cuts, lengths) to create a transformation sequence for the rotation
searches in this forum helped to work out the method
then I deactivated the line as it was no longer required as a reference
added
dc_observers.get_latest_class.redraw_with_undo(componentinstance)
to redraw the scaled component (tig)
I have attached the amended rod.skp and linetool.rb, which can overwrite the existing in the C:\Users"computer name"\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2016\SketchUp\Plugins\su_examples
No?
-you could simply create and place different positions of the door and associated lines on different layers, then hide or show the appropriate layer in the scene.
use conditional statements
for X attribute, =if(copy=1, span1)+ if(copy=2, span1+span2)....
Hi
you will notice whenever you scale a object its material stretches, so the area calculation remains the same, just what you see is a stretch representation of the same area
so make the component unique, so it does not effect others using the same definition, after scale or changes, right click choose scale definition, and right click dynamic component redraw may also be required.
I hope to later create a set of ruby script tools to overcome some of these issues
True, but we can hack at the problem given that the ruby script example allows
"Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted....provided that the above copyright notice appear in all"
Hi
I recommend that (if you haven't already) download Alex Schreyer: Ruby Code Editor
http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=as_rubyeditor
open it and checkout its features..
now to find the path to the plugin folder...
something like C:\Users\PHILIP\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2016\SketchUp\Plugins (it may pay to set a short cut to this)
So assuming you have down loaded the su_examples
So using the ruby editor...looking at the linetool example, it would seem pointless or impossible at this stage to completely understand all of whats going on, and I must admit I'm fairly new to this.
the # bits (grey) are comments, there is a lot about the mouse control, but I skip that.. no point reinventing the wheel.. but hello this is actually two tools...the second,cylinders that inherit functions from the first line tool..we can build our tool(s) on this. Most of the work already done
But first you probably notice how darn hard it is to run this script. We need to borrow a bit of code say from the box.rb and overwrite the linetool.rb to have easy access.
Close linetool.rb and open boxtool.rb
what makes it visible?..looking for key words...load...menu?
if( not file_loaded?("su_examples/box.rb") )
# This will add a separator to the menu, but only once
#Note: We don't translate the Menu names - the Ruby API assumes you are
#using English names for Menus.
%(#0000BF)[add_separator_to_menu("Draw")]
# To add an item to a menu, you identify the menu, and then
# provide a title to display and a block to execute. In this case,
# the block just calls the create_box function
%(#0000BF)[UI.menu("Draw").add_item($exStrings.GetString("Box")) { create_box }]
end
can be copied and pasted into linetool.rb and change box in the two statements plus the menu text line to something descriptive
if( not file_loaded?("su_examples/linetool.rb") )
add_separator_to_menu("Draw")
UI.menu("Draw").add_item($exStrings.GetString("construct line")) { linetool }
add_separator_to_menu("Draw")
UI.menu("Draw").add_item($exStrings.GetString("%(#FF0000)[pipe line]")) { %(#FF0000)[cylindertool] }
end
you can run it to check
then if okay save to an appropriate folder
Now you need to close Sketchup and overwrite the existing with this one (perhaps saving a copy if you need to return to a previous version)
I found by overwriting, I am able to have the menu items appear when Sketchup opens
So with menu items we can now create some keyboard shortcuts, (window/preferences/shortcuts) say shift L, for the constuct line, and shift P, for the pipe
hopefully all works
any comments or code corrections,ideas welcome
so ends this part
There is a problem with using the rotate and scale tool in that the DC is rotated as well.
I believe the solution is to create or modify a ruby script. That is to go back to the line idea, and build a tool that draws a dynamic component line
http://www.sketchup.com/intl/en/developer/
from examples
http://www.sketchup.com/intl/en/developer/docs/examples
use the linetool.rb
idea: check out how it works and modify to suit
I have just discovered ThomThom "rotate and scale" (extension warehouse) which will move the objects to the desired position. Though you do require a redraw of the component after the move.
Profile Builder could be the answer, it allows one to switch to a line path, edit this and the profile will follow the new path.
By double wrap, I mean the contents of a component are made into another, so you end with a component containing a component. This method I believe, by passes the scale definition and the size based on the passed attribute values.
From observation,
-a component file when opened shows the child contents/attributes not the parent
3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.
(3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)
the series are built with a common 2.5" length, so after scaling a swap will update to the current scale.
I found that the scaling failed on more complex DCs
1m components.skp
try component_1,and _2 swaps okay after scaling but _3 does not swap with _2 or _1 though the other way round works
After a few different experiments I found the double wrap worked, this is advantageous as the second level can be multiple exploded or outer-shelled to leave the data component wrapper, ideal for report writing, painting...and after purge smaller file size
in essence: simple to complex works, but without the wrap, complex to simple does not
300x100 Beam.skp
this is a simple beam with the geometry collected into a inner component. In this form the swaps seem to be successful both ways
the insertion point and direction of a component is determined by its axis position and direction, and probably the only thing it has in common with a Revit adaptive component. There is only one insertion point, however the Dynamic component can react to scaling and movement depending on the conditions applied in its attributes.
you could create a rod centered at the insertion point, initially with direction in all planes, then use the scale tool to modify its length / direction
I would suggest a different work flow
importantly components can be swapped, but to bypass the set size, one must use a double wrapped component and expose some or all its size attributes.
For example a line can be changed to a component with an axis placement, then later swapped with a complex component.The complex component must be wrapped and refer to a current value, in this case current("LenY") {*2.54 if metric }
So draw some raw line geometry that represents a frame, select a line, type G, press "set component axis" on the dialog, place new axis at an end, rotate until get perpendicular, click and set the y axis along the length of the line. Make sure "Replace selection with component" is clicked and create. Now open attributes and click size(add all). Now this line component can be swapped with a component with scale-able LenY.
Attached is a steel beam component which you can swap (once saved to a folder) with the line you created. This component is the one enclosed within another, double wrapped with attributes passed to the child.
Further swaps can be made with components of a similar design (or family to use a Revit term) you can outershell or explode the inner parts of a complex component to form raw geometry, hence easier to edit, paint, takeoff...you can swap again with same or another. The steel beam can be simplified by this outershell and explode method
In reference to the edited example of ligature in the previous post,first save to a dedicated folder. Then one can after entering the size, select the wire & section sub components (best using outliner), explode 3 times then activate followme and pick the section to follow the wire path.
Sounds a bit complicated but give it a go. The data still remains in the parent, and can be swapped with the saved component to reinstate if further editing is required
Hi Oladipo,
I would like to consider a different perspective and workflow. I have attached a wire representation of a stirrup or a ligature as we call them in Aussie. The concept is to use simple models which can be swapped later with complex one where detailing warrants it. this greatly reduces file sizes and hence better performance
Cheers
Philip
edited example, corrected bends, added ability to convert to solid using followme
option to draw ceiling joists? That would be great and a collar tie and ridge tie option. Better still give the option to place them at a given height.
I would refer you to a similar post
http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=289%26amp;t=63127
please read
I attached a version 8 copy