Thanks Joarek, I'd suggest that you start a separate topic asking for help on modeling the bike's tank and any other parts you are having trouble with. When you solve each problem in a separate topic you can the update this post and continue to develop your bike so we can see progress. BTW, this is coincidental. While having lunch yesterday with my wife and Jock (dog) on the terrace of the Gourmet Cafe in our town we met two women from Norway. Jock made friends first and introduced us all. They were two teachers on holiday. Our planned one hour Sunday lunch turned into 3 hours with quite a few beers. We talked about Norway and Ireland and how life is lived in each country. I thought beer and cigs were expensive in Ireland! It looks like they are much more expensive in Norway Mike

I guess i just like the HUD border If it annoys you let me know

I did not have too many, but can I remember a work-around that I think I used. This may not be the one that worked [when traveling, I always remember the route to how I got lost and end up getting lost again] I set up a new drawing using styles, model info, ect to get it how I like, I than used Mass Materials Importer to get them into the drawing, Save as template, use for default. Then one by one over time, when I used one of them in my models I saved them into my materials folder. It means you have to use colours in models a lot for a while and it's annoying if you purge your drawing and then need one that you haven't moved, but you can always open a new drawing from templates and import the model over. anyway without being able to check my memory...

Ah great, thanks alot Gai. I did search for some answers but it was not easy to figure out what keywords that suited the issue. I will try those tips the next time it happens and see if that sorts it. Cheers