Ah, I see. Thanks Dave. So you're trying to get dimensions in LayOut to match dimensions in SketchUp.

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Doesn't this work:

1. Draw a horizontal line, wider than the stairs, where you want the dimension to line up.
2. Draw the dimension, using the alt / option key to rotate it, and snap the dimension to the line you drew in step 1.

But I feel like I'm missing something. Someone straighten me out if I am. Edson - LO doesn't have guides, but you can draw lines to snap to, then erase them.

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We made a decision long ago to keep a copy of the model inside the LayOut document in case you lost the link. Now you found the file? File->Document Setup->References, select the file. If it doesn't have the correct location to update, you can always help by clicking Relink, and find the location of the file. When you hit Unlink (not recommended) you are using only the file embedded in LayOut.

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ps - if you unzip a LayOut file, you'll find your models in the ref/ directory of the unzipped file.

One other issue is getting an edge through a section cut, but that doesn't sound like your concern? If it is, search this forum for the answer.

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er, Mac = 3.0.4810.

OK, the cases I can think of:

1. You turned off Object Snap. Arrange->Object Snap.
2. We had an old bug that if you got a center inference, you'd lose the ability to get any inferences after that. That bug was fixed in the current versions of LayOut: 3.0.4010(Mac) 4811(PC).

Anyone else? It's definitely not an image?

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Really? I've only had one person show me a 100 page document (a very specific use). I worked in process engineering and for huge projects we never had 100 pages of drawings. What are you doing?

File->Document Setup->Paper. Paper size is a per-document setting.

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Turn on File->Document Setup->Paper->Margins (check the box) and see in this case if your margins are clipping here.

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Sorry for slow replies... we just pushed out a maintenance release yesterday.

We don't do auto page numbering (no ruby exposed yet in LayOut), so if your pages are misnumbered, it must be in how they're ordered in the pages inspector. Unless I'm confused and not seeing what you're pointing to (which could easily be the case), Red.

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Assuming Mac: Window->Arrange Panels.

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Oh, then erase the angular dimension... obviously.

Well, your group could change. You could have 5 items in a group, rotate them, ungroup, regroup 3 of them, then rotate. In SketchUp, you'd use the protractor tool, then rotate and snap to the line. Nothing quite equivalent in LayOut. The closest I came was to use angular dimensions to get the exact angle, then rotate the group (select, move, type in the same angle). Worked OK for me.

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like cornerbar, er, clubhouse?

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ps - for newbies, there's a forum called CornerBar, and a model that goes with it.

sketchupjockey - send me the file in a PM, or I can try to talk you through trying to recover the file. LayOut files are zipped so unzip the file and look inside the pages/ directory. How many pagexxx.xml files are there? That's how many pages actually got zipped up in the file? Are you saving to a file server or was all work local?

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In LayOut, File->Document Setup, Paper - at the bottom is Rendering Resolution. You can also go to References and click on the button "Purge" if you've added a model or image but are no longer using it.

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We've found two instances of extra slow rendering with vector, and I'll point out one and we're working on fixing the other.

1. If your view in LayOut only has a tiny bit of geometry, but yet there's a large (geographic area of model not shown), you do render all of the model and it can be slow. Dave R helped us find this, and we're looking at how this happens but no workaround other than to have you move items that aren't geolocated closer to each other, or possibly do them in separate models and include all of them in LayOut separately.

2. An edge issue in vector, which we're testing fixes for, that can cause some models. A user in our Google support forums provided us a test file which we were able to analyze. We'll keep you posted on how this goes and if it helps.

Unlike raster images, the vectors aren't cached and are re-rendered, so even without these issues, you still may get slow rendering. We are currently working on making updates to models be less painful when updated in LayOut.

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Ah, OK, so it's not a camera jumping issue as much as a wrong scale issue, but the pulldown selects a wrong (off by 1 in the list) value? Are you seeing this on Mac or PC? Have you added custom scales? It seems like you're getting this enough that I should be able to reproduce it.

I usually set the scale first, in ortho, so "Preserve Scale on Resize" gets checked. That way, I can line things up without having to go in edit mode.

If that's not clear, respond back.

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Gaieus is right, there isn't. Workaround, you could draw in SketchUp with offset, send to LayOut, vector render, explode.

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Oh, and buy a service bureau employee a beer and ask them how they do high end printing... the tricks are usually the same.

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... former writer of software for service bureaus.