Got all that, thanks...
I may be suffering from my version (SU8) though...
Can install the sketchucation plugin, but nothing appears in the program.
Likewise with Toolsonsurface...
I do already have LibFredo installed and Fredo tools, among other things.
I found version 1.8 of the Toolsonsurface, as a zip file. Followed the premise of unzipping and copying to the plugins folder, but again, never appears in the program...
I have a sense that it all ends here...
Thanks for chiming in all the same...