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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      Wouldn't it be quicker to make the 'curtain' and then use JointPushPull on it to give it a Volume then Slice it ?
      Or are you looking for a Slice at Nodes option ?
      Can you give a before and after example, with steps so I can understand your issues better... πŸ˜•

      TIG

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      • mariochaM Offline
        mariocha
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        Indeed we tried with JPP. And we use it on simple meshes before Slicer. But often the mesh is too complicated, with acute angles, JPP results in a mess then. So an offset has to be done after the slicing.
        But I realise that the overlaps that Offset often do are going to be a problem that will need manual work anyway.
        So we only need the part of the script that generates the slices, numbers and flattens them, like #16.


        Example.png

        %(#008000)[Mario C.
        Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          So if I understand correctly, you want a version of Slicer that can make slices through a '2D-mesh' - a 'curtain' of faces [that have no 3D values in plan - or the equivalent 'other' dimension] - and then represent these as group of lines forming 2D slices laid out on plan. I assume that you don't want any 'thickness' to these 'slices' as they are initially 'lines' anyway ?

          Are these always in plan ?
          If so there already is my ContourMaker ?

          I see you seem to 'make faces' of the results - this could be added as an auto-offset by a desired distance of the lines closed into a face...

          What is the exact use of these later on ? CNC work ?

          Is this what you want ?sss.png

          TIG

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          • mariochaM Offline
            mariocha
            last edited by

            Yes Sir TIG, you got it right.
            But these overlaps Offset creates (when some lines are shorter than the offset distance, I think) are going to be impossible to handle automatically, no?

            %(#008000)[Mario C.
            Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Watch this space...
              Do you want to always cut in Z - it's easier that if I have to make XYZ versions ???

              TIG

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Like thisUntitled.png

                TIG

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  So the 'ribs' are vertical.
                  How do you determine there rotation about the Z axis ?
                  By axis X/Y or by Node angle bisector etc ?
                  It is easy enough to make the closing edges 'horizontal'...
                  πŸ€“

                  TIG

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                  • mariochaM Offline
                    mariocha
                    last edited by

                    Great.
                    My sections are always standing up. But at any angle on xy plane.
                    Oh, and the top and bottom level have to stay the same if a face is created. Offset tends to change these if the initial top or bottom lines are slanted, as you know.

                    %(#008000)[Mario C.
                    Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      If you made a curve along the front edge then the ribs could be angled to match the angle-bisector to each pair of edges at a node, or square at the ends ?
                      What would the typical 'scale' of this be - i.e. rib depth and rib spacing etc...
                      Do these ribs project into the face, or out from it ?

                      TIG

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                      • mariochaM Offline
                        mariocha
                        last edited by

                        A curve along the front edges ? Ha! on the floor, you mean? It would have to be a bezier, I guess.
                        Ribs are a few inches (4") behind the faces.
                        Typical heights are 5' to 20', rib with of 10"

                        %(#008000)[Mario C.
                        Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          You can make a 'curve' from any selection of edges that are continuous - use 'weld.rb'.
                          You could set this curve in 4" from the face and then a rib 10" wide inwards from that.
                          Centers would then be the curve's nodes ?
                          Height matches the face's height where it is 'cut'.
                          ❓

                          TIG

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                          • mariochaM Offline
                            mariocha
                            last edited by

                            Yes that is just right.
                            (I confused "curve" (arc) with "curve" (polyline)) πŸ˜›

                            %(#008000)[Mario C.
                            Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                            • mariochaM Offline
                              mariocha
                              last edited by

                              Following your advice in an earlier post about using JPP, I looked at it again. I realized I was not using the settings adequately. Once the settings are right, it does the job pretty well. 😳 πŸ˜„
                              All that's needed now is Slicer to follow the curve of the footing slicing at angles like you mentionned.

                              %(#008000)[Mario C.
                              Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                              • mariochaM Offline
                                mariocha
                                last edited by

                                Well, for now, the ribs are perpendicular to a straight line averaging the direction of the pane. This line angles as needed and we treat the mesh in sections. I ajust the axis along the way. We have to do a footing plate showing where to stand the constructed rib.

                                %(#008000)[Mario C.
                                Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                                • P Offline
                                  princedragoncok
                                  last edited by

                                  Firstly great work on Slicer, but as many have mentioned an upgrade to slicer-modeller would be fantastic. I have also started learning paracloud gem, but as of yet there aren't enough reasons for me to go out and buy it just right now. Although I don't fully understand all its functions yet, I was particularly interested in a ribbed structure in their gallery which was created by some sort of internal 'pinch' points. It is illustrated below..

                                  http://paraclouding.com/WP/wp-content/themes/tma/images/uploads/model-photo-showing-the-ribs-structure-which-vary-in-depth.jpg

                                  Could the slices perhaps follow bezier curves either (A) - manually created by the user, or (B )- generated automatically by some sort of 'pinching'?

                                  Possible?? ❓

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Look at my Extrude Edges By Rails By Faces
                                    Make the face a 'rib' ?
                                    OR try the simpler EEbyFace and process a 'rib' face just the one curve at a time, useful if the form is not susceptible to a 'meshed' solution...

                                    TIG

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                                    • P Offline
                                      princedragoncok
                                      last edited by

                                      Yes that is almost the solution indeed... but what about the slots? Can slots automatically be made at intersections via a plugin? and then laid out nicely like in slicer?

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                                      • mariochaM Offline
                                        mariocha
                                        last edited by

                                        One could also try FFD on the grouped slices. No ?

                                        %(#008000)[Mario C.
                                        Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          You want "Slotter" πŸ€“

                                          Run the 'Slotter' tool, you select a shape [group] that has some intersecting forms [groups] (perhaps two 'sliced' sets in two 'planes'), choose whether 'top' or 'bottom' slots required in the selected shape.
                                          It booleans half slots in the selected shape at every intersection [say from the 'top] to match the intersecting forms, and also all of the other forms gets slots added in the other direction, so that then all of the forms will 'slot together' if made in reality...
                                          The slotted shapes would be copied/grouped for safety and laid flat if desired ?

                                          This idea is quite doable... I'll think on it πŸ’­

                                          Any feedback welcome during the 'gestation' phase...

                                          TIG

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                                          • P Offline
                                            princedragoncok
                                            last edited by

                                            Slotter... that's exactly it. Don't really know what to add to your description at the moment apart from laying them out neatly after slotting. I have a laser cutter at my disposal at the moment (I work in a model shop) and would love to realise some concept designs with slotter, slicer and slicermodeller. Looking forward to the next upgrade!

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