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    • BoxB Offline
      Box @ntxdave
      last edited by

      @ntxdave said in I’ve Been “Boxed”:

      Apparently, I am not not drawing the arc between to circle correctly.

      Make sure you get the magenta inference. The start and end points of the arc should be in the same relative segments of the circles. Often best to use a segment Midpoint rather than an endpoint. And it needs to be at a point that will flow smoothly with the circle.

      @ntxdave said in I’ve Been “Boxed”:

      I have to use the TIG Weld feature to connect the lines so I can use them for the path for the Follow Me tool.

      Well yes, but all I did was triple click to select all of it as the path. Weld allows you to select it with one click.

      @ntxdave said in I’ve Been “Boxed”:

      I get the outline in the face and I have to go erase the outline.

      I double click on the face, which selects the face and it's edges allowing it all to delete in one go.

      @ntxdave said in I’ve Been “Boxed”:

      Here is the file from what I did for this exercise

      Looking at your model it is clear you haven't connected the arc smoothly.
      And the circle you have in the middle of the shape is drawn Off Axis, so it will not line up correctly with the rest of the model.

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      • ntxdaveN Offline
        ntxdave
        last edited by

        Thanks for the response/repoy. Hopefully I will be able to try again later today. Again, I really appreciate you giving me instructions in how to get this wright. Eventually I want to be able to draw things like the first picture in you thread. Be I need to hone my skills first. 😁

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        • ntxdaveN Offline
          ntxdave @Box
          last edited by ntxdave

          @Box said in I’ve Been “Boxed”:

          @ntxdave said in I’ve Been “Boxed”:

          Apparently, I am not not drawing the arc between to circle correctly.

          Make sure you get the magenta inference. The start and end points of the arc should be in the same relative segments of the circles. Often best to use a segment Midpoint rather than an endpoint. And it needs to be at a point that will flow smoothly with the circle.

          @ntxdave said in I’ve Been “Boxed”:

          I have to use the TIG Weld feature to connect the lines so I can use them for the path for the Follow Me tool.

          Well yes, but all I did was triple click to select all of it as the path. Weld allows you to select it with one click.

          @ntxdave said in I’ve Been “Boxed”:

          I get the outline in the face and I have to go erase the outline.

          I double click on the face, which selects the face and it's edges allowing it all to delete in one go.

          @ntxdave said in I’ve Been “Boxed”:

          Here is the file from what I did for this exercise

          Looking at your model it is clear you haven't connected the arc smoothly.
          And the circle you have in the middle of the shape is drawn Off Axis, so it will not line up correctly with the rest of the model.

          I am still having a problem with connecting the circles. Do you have a suggestion/advice about how to correctly connect the circles? How do I get a reference to the segment Midpoint?

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          • BoxB Offline
            Box
            last edited by

            Look for the tooltips that tell you midpoint or end point etc

            GIF 2-03-2025 10-24-50 AM.gif

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            • ntxdaveN Offline
              ntxdave @Box
              last edited by ntxdave

              @Box

              Box Practice 1.png

              Here is my skp file: Box Practice 1.skp

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              • BoxB Offline
                Box @ntxdave
                last edited by

                @ntxdave
                I can't answer just now. I will tomorrow if I have time.
                But lets clean things up a bit, rather than having this discussion in Tuna's Gallery thread.

                Can you start a new thread in the Newbie sub forum and include your model. It would be best if you can include it with the setup before you used follow me.
                Then Dave or Rich will split the relevant post out of this one and into the new one.

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                • ntxdaveN Offline
                  ntxdave @Rich O Brien
                  last edited by

                  @Rich-O-Brien said in I’ve Been “Boxed”:

                  let me know by tagging me in that new thread and I'll move this sidebar.

                  Not sure what you mean by tagging you.

                  Here is the new thread I have created: Box Exercise Discussions

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by Dave R

                    I see a major issue is that your profile is offset inward from the path but more than the radius of the arcs at the ends.

                    Screenshot - 3_3_2025 , 12_54_54 PM.png

                    Do you really want the "knobs" at the ends to have that corner.

                    Screenshot - 3_3_2025 , 12_55_10 PM.png

                    Here the profile (shown selected) is aligned with the path. On the right you can see some of the resulting extrusion. Might be better to put the profile outside the path.
                    Screenshot - 3_3_2025 , 1_22_22 PM.png

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                    • ntxdaveN Offline
                      ntxdave @Box
                      last edited by

                      @Box said in Box Exercise Discussions:

                      Look for the tooltips that tell you midpoint or end point etc

                      GIF 2-03-2025 10-24-50 AM.gif
                      Box, I have tried many times now and I cannot get a smooth arch/connection between the two circles and therefore I am not getting a good outline for creating the model. Are there any tips you can give me for creating a connecting arch that will give me a smooth outline for creating the object in your example?

                      @Dave-R I did make the adjustments you suggested and I did a better result but I am having problems based on what I have asked @Box about.

                      As I have said before, I have used SU for several years now but for a very concentrated set of models and now I am trying to expand my skills and am not making very good progress.

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                      • BoxB Offline
                        Box
                        last edited by

                        My guess would be your circles are not drawn on axis. Not at a computer so can't check your model.

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                        • ntxdaveN Offline
                          ntxdave @Box
                          last edited by ntxdave

                          @Box said in Box Exercise Discussions:

                          My guess would be your circles are not drawn on axis. Not at a computer so can't check your model.

                          I thought they were. I will try agin, tomorrow I hope. 😁

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                          • BoxB Offline
                            Box
                            last edited by

                            It's pretty clear just from Dave's screenshot that your circles are off axis.

                            image.png

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                            • ntxdaveN Offline
                              ntxdave
                              last edited by ntxdave

                              I used the green axis But I will try the red axis and see if it makes a difference. I will also make sure that when I draw the circle again that I follow the axis when drawing the circle. As I am typing this response, that is probably what I did wrong. Don’t give up on me. ☺️

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                              • ntxdaveN Offline
                                ntxdave
                                last edited by

                                OK, I made sure I drew the circle on an axis (red) and then I created the arch (see image below). However, once again things are correct. If you look at the image, you will see a gap and the points where the arcs connect to the circle are not properly aligned. I do not understand what I am doing wrong.

                                image.png

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                                • ntxdaveN Offline
                                  ntxdave
                                  last edited by

                                  Well, I finally got things working. It took a little cleanup along the way but here is the results.

                                  image.png

                                  Now off to some other bot Box's tips.................

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                                  • ntxdaveN Offline
                                    ntxdave
                                    last edited by ntxdave

                                    Here are the types of models I eventually want to be able to create:

                                    image.pngf00a0bae-2e43-44e4-8a65-7d2595b7094d-image.jpeg globe-stand.jpg twist-globe-renderpp.jpg

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                                    • tuna1957T Offline
                                      tuna1957 @ntxdave
                                      last edited by tuna1957

                                      @ntxdave I’m not Box but I’ll put on my thinking cap and see if I can come up with some helpful things for you. It would help to know what plugins you have. Wouldn’t want to show you things that rely on plugins you don’t have. Idea is to start off simple and build from there. 😎

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                                      • ntxdaveN Offline
                                        ntxdave
                                        last edited by

                                        I have way too many to list here. After watching more of Box’s videos, I think I have all of the ones he uses. However, I am not positive. I look forward to your suggestions/recommendations. 😀

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                                        • tuna1957T Offline
                                          tuna1957
                                          last edited by

                                          Not sure these will help. But giving it a shot. Starting out you need to keep it simple. I’m no way in Box’s league so take it for what it’s worth. Posting a gif. I already have the base shapes modeled to keep the gif as short as possible. Also left the guidelines for you to see. Start simple and let us see some images of what you’re doing so we can help when needed. ntxdave#1.gif

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                                          • ntxdaveN Offline
                                            ntxdave
                                            last edited by

                                            Thanks for your reply. In your gif, I am not seeing how you did the circle at the top. The rest is very clear. I also need to see how the ones with the Crossed (probably not the best description) patterns is done. I think I need to generate a unit like you did, then take the top surface of the upright unit and pull it so the uprights are slanted. Then take the group of uprights make a copy of the group and then flip it so that the pieces are then crossing each other.

                                            Do you think that is headed in the right direction?

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