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      pipinek @TIG
      last edited by pipinek

      @TIG
      Thank you very much TIG.

      There is no a such issue with SU 2023 on the very same machine.

      I have repaired (as admin) SU 2024 installation.
      In vain.

      I run SU 2024 as admin.

      Previously I had several messages whilst opening SU 2024 - incorrect installation, Subfolder missing (Fredo6 plugin name following by the above)
      At present I have no error message - simply Fredo6 extensions are not loading.
      Although they are are in the Plugin folder and on the plugin list in Extension manager section.
      No Fredo6 toolbar available.

      I have also noticed that disabled extension via Extension Managed (changes applied) are not respected once opening the SU 2024 - they remain enabled as if the changes do not make any impact on it.

      Screenshot 2024-05-23 135116.png

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        TIG Moderator @pipinek
        last edited by

        @pipinek

        You should not run an application as administrator.
        Although your normal-user might can of course have admin-powers.
        But you should always install an application by using 'Run as administrator' as explained, because this sets permissions properly etc...

        If you open SketchUp and open the Ruby Console, then close SketchUp with the Ruby Console open, when SketchUp is restarted the Console might show some loading errors...

        Perhaps @fredo6 needs to comment...

        TIG

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          pipinek @TIG
          last edited by

          @TIG
          Once more many thanks TIG

          Here is a result of closing and opening SU with Ruby Console:

          I will deeply appreciate if you could take a look on it.

          C:/Program Files/Chaos Group/V-Ray/V-Ray for SketchUp/extension/ruby/material_sync/texture_simulator.rbc:7: warning: undefining the allocator of T_DATA class VRay::UVTextureSampler
          "RubyEncoder loader: C:/Users/Artur.XXXXX/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins/!Curic_gesture/rgloader/rgloader32.mingw.x64.so"Renderer Assigned (ArchiveHandler): V-Ray

          finished reading language file
          tb_mode,single
          tb_Settingout,true
          tb_Draw,true
          tb_Edit,true
          tb_Array,true
          tb_Wall,true
          tb_Staircase,true
          tb_Win,true
          tb_Roof,true
          tb_Site,true
          tb_Structure,true
          point_on_face,true
          divide,true
          align,true
          perpendicular_line,true
          fonplane,true
          bestface,true
          extrude1,true
          extrude2,true
          move_vertex,true
          fillet,false
          chamfer,true
          extend,true
          offset_edge,true
          hline_faces,true
          slopeedges,true
          linear_array,true
          rect_array,true
          polar_array,true
          path_array,true
          wallsctrl,true
          opening,true
          hgroove,true
          escalator,true
          wframe,true
          dframe,true
          paneldivide,true
          screen1,true
          hlouvres,true
          vlouvres,true
          joists,true
          roof1,true
          hiproof,true
          revsurf,true
          mdeck,true
          stairsctrl,true
          profiles_on_plane,true
          cutfill,true
          siteb,true
          fndctrl,true
          columnctrl,true
          contour,true
          setlayer,true
          mergelayer,true
          framesel,true
          scale,true
          center1,true
          ptsinfo,true
          extrude3,true
          profiles3d,true
          extrude0,true
          loading 1001bit pro menu >> true
          Extension loader file C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/Fredo6_!LibFredo6.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.
          Extension loader file C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/Fredo6_FredoCorner.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.
          Extension loader file C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/Fredo6_FredoGhost.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.
          Extension loader file C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/Fredo6_FredoGuides.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.
          Extension loader file C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/Fredo6_FredoPortrait.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.
          Extension loader file C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/Fredo6_FredoScale.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.
          Extension loader file C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/Fredo6_FredoSketch.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.
          Extension loader file C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/Fredo6_FredoSpline.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.
          Extension loader file C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/Fredo6_FredoTools.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.
          Extension loader file C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/Fredo6_HoleEditor.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.
          Extension loader file C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/Fredo6_JointPushPull.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.
          true
          true
          C:/Users/Artur.XXXXX/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins/smustard_Parking/Parking.rb:59: warning: already initialized constant Smustard::Submenu
          C:/Users/Artur.XXXXX/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins/smustard_DropGC/DropGC.rb:60: warning: previous definition of Submenu was here
          C:/Users/Artur.XXXXX/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins/smustard_Parking/Parking.rb:67: warning: already initialized constant Smustard::Toolbar
          C:/Users/Artur.XXXXX/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins/smustard_DropGC/DropGC.rb:68: warning: previous definition of Toolbar was here
          C:/Users/Artur.XXXXX/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins/smustard_PathCopyPro/PathCopyPro.rb:57: warning: already initialized constant Smustard::Submenu
          C:/Users/Artur.XXXXX/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins/smustard_Parking/Parking.rb:59: warning: previous definition of Submenu was here
          C:/Users/Artur.XXXXX/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins/smustard_PathCopyPro/PathCopyPro.rb:63: warning: already initialized constant Smustard::Toolbar
          C:/Users/Artur.XXXXX/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins/smustard_Parking/Parking.rb:67: warning: previous definition of Toolbar was here
          "Can not load Curic Helpper!"
          Error: nil

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            TIG Moderator @pipinek
            last edited by

            @pipinek

            You added the Extension Manager screenshot after I posted...
            All of those Fredo extensions and probably LibFredo6 should be Enabled, as should SketchUcation...
            After turning the status 'blue' you need to click the button at the bottom of the dialog titled, "Apply Changes"
            How did they become 'disabled' ?

            TIG

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              pipinek @TIG
              last edited by pipinek

              @TIG
              The problem is they were not disabled (after restarting Su 2024) - they did not keep the Extension Manager status - of course with 'Apply changes' pressed.

              I think there was some potential conflict (perhaps) with Sketchucation Tools I have just uninstalled to verify it. And nothing changed.

              What if I delete the C:\Program Files\SketchUp\SketchUp 2024\Tools\gems\3.2.0\gems\rexml-3.2.5\lib folder and reinstall all Fredo6 extensions?

              Thank you very much

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                TIG Moderator @pipinek
                last edited by TIG

                @pipinek

                That Console set of error messages, opens another can of worms...

                Going down your list...

                Try disabling Vray as it's throwing an error. Ensure you have the latest version installed.
                Not sure why it's installed in your Program Files like that... Check the correct installation...

                The ../Plugins/!Curic_gesture is also causing issues, and would be best disabled.

                Then we get to the main errors...

                C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/
                should NOT contain any of Fredo's extensions or the LibFredo6, RB file OR the associated subfolders of the same names.

                How did you install them in there ?
                Did you do it from the RBZ's or ExtensionStore³ ?
                If the latter, check your settings and your Paths is set to Plugins...

                These Fredo extensions should be in your Plugins folder... [they might be already?]
                Remove the incorrectly installed RB files and subfolders of the same name...

                The various issues with the ../Plugin/smustard_... files failing to load is probably because they are no longer compatible with v2024 - disable them.

                Once you've done some house-keeping retry and report back...

                TIG

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                  TIG Moderator @pipinek
                  last edited by TIG

                  @pipinek

                  Don't delete the C:\Program Files\SketchUp\SketchUp 2024\Tools\gems\3.2.0\gems\rexml-3.2.5\lib
                  folder as it's a shipped folder, but the Fredo files and subfolders should be removed so the Plugins folder versions load properly when loaded properly.

                  It's a complete disaster !

                  And... you must have the SketchUcation stuff installed in Plugins too - it works the licensing.

                  TIG

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                    pipinek @TIG
                    last edited by pipinek

                    @TIG
                    Thank you.

                    I will tidy up as recommended.

                    In the meantime, I have deleted all Fredo6 files and folders from the SU 2024 Plugin Folder.

                    I have erased all files and folders from the Fredo6 name from the gems...lib folder.

                    I installed the previously deleted/uninstalled extension Sketchucation Tool (the entire list of preserved settings appeared in it).

                    I installed all Fredo6 extensions via Sketchucation Tools.
                    Tolbars appeared on the screen.

                    After starting the SU, none of the installed Fredo6 extensions loaded.

                    Fredo6 files and folders reappeared in the lib folder.

                    However, no Fredo6 files or folders appeared in the SU 2024 Plugins folder after installation via Sketchucation Tools.

                    Fredo6 extension is not visible in the Extension Manager list.

                    Maybe there is something wrong between my chair and.... screen?

                    Update:

                    I copied all Fredo6 files and folders from the backup to the SU 2024 Plugins folder (previously deleted when uninstalling them)

                    I have removed all Fredo6 files and folders from the gems...elib folder and opened SU 2024.

                    All the Fred6 ectensions appeared on the screen (toolbars) - not in their previous place, but I was pleased to see this.

                    Although I think this is a bit of an anomaly and I don't feel confident using SU.

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                      fredo6 @pipinek
                      last edited by

                      @pipinek

                      It would be good to have the list of files and folders in your Plugins folder.

                      Also, you said that it has happened 'suddenly'. Did you remember if you did something just before?

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                        pipinek @fredo6
                        last edited by

                        @fredo6
                        Greetings,

                        Unfortunately, I cannot pinpoint any key moment when the Fredo6 extension stopped loading.

                        On a couple of occasions when I opened the SU for no (usual) reason, a list of extensions appeared on the screen which should have been unblocked by Sketchucation Tools.

                        I simply closed the toolbars that appeared.

                        And then at one point Fred6 just didn't appear on the screen, didn't load.

                        Is this about the list of files and folders in the SU 2024 Plugins folder?

                        Thanks for taking a look.

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                          fredo6 @pipinek
                          last edited by

                          @pipinek said in Fredo6 extensions (none of them) not loading SU 2024:

                          Is this about the list of files and folders in the SU 2024 Plugins folder?

                          Yes. Do you have a list or a screenshot?

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                            TIG Moderator @pipinek
                            last edited by

                            @pipinek

                            Have you any ideas how your installed extensions ended up in that 'gems' folder subfolder ?
                            Can you open your SketchUcation's ExtensionStore³ dialog and click Setting, then Paths and report the path that's chosen.
                            If it's not your default Plugins folder something is adrift !

                            It really doesn't need to be this complicated...

                            TIG

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                              pipinek @fredo6
                              last edited by

                              @fredo6

                              Here they are:

                              P_01.png P_02.png P_03.png P_04.png P_05.png P_06.png P_07.png P_08.png P_09.png P_10.png

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                                fredo6 @pipinek
                                last edited by

                                @pipinek

                                The files and folders seems to be present.

                                So, there is something messing up the load of plugins.

                                I have never seen this message:

                                Fredo6_!LibFredo6.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.

                                What is exactly the role of this gem of the Sketchup Extension Manager?

                                Could it be that some pieces of my extensions are also present in another directory?. Can you check what you see in:

                                • C:/ProgramData/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins
                                • C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools

                                With all the plugins you have, it's going difficult to troubleshoot the loading of extensions.

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                                  pipinek @fredo6
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                                  @fredo6

                                  I attach the contents of the two folders mentioned.

                                  The third folder contained a whole series of Fredo6 files and folders created there after the installation of extensions via Sketchucation Tools.

                                  When installing the Fredo6 extensions Sketchucation Tools did not create any folder or file in the SU 2024 Plugins folder.

                                  Only in the lib folder.

                                  When I removed them all from the lib folder and copied the files and folders from the Fredo6 backap to SU 2024 Plugin all Fredo6 extensions appeared loaded.

                                  PS
                                  I have no idea what role the gem folder plays. Apparently not the best.![alt text](1.png 2.png 3.png image url)

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                                    fredo6 @pipinek
                                    last edited by

                                    @pipinek

                                    What is the path of this 'third folder'.

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                                      TIG Moderator @fredo6
                                      last edited by TIG

                                      @fredo6

                                      I agree with Fredo.
                                      If you have somethings loading that then interfere with Fredo's extensions/lib, then it suggests they are loading earlier than the Plugins folder's RB files...
                                      So somethings have either been put into Tools, or Tools../gems./... or maybe ../ProgramData/.../Plugins

                                      Please check these locations...

                                      Your posts cross with mine...

                                      Your ProgramData Plugins seems OK, though I don't see why some extensions other than vfs are in there.
                                      The Tools folder looks OK.
                                      The Tools... gems...lib folder should only contain the rexml stuff, why the Helix stuff is there is a mystery...
                                      What is this 'third-folder' ??

                                      TIG

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                                        pipinek @fredo6
                                        last edited by pipinek

                                        @fredo6
                                        C:\Program Files\SketchUp\SketchUp 2024\Tools\gems\3.2.0\gems\rexml-3.2.5\lib

                                        The very same plugins I have installed in SU 2023 on the same machine/laptop without any issues.

                                        Two mentioned by Fredo6 folders:

                                        C:/ProgramData/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins
                                        C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools
                                        

                                        Third one as on the first line here.

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                                          FlawinneF
                                          last edited by

                                          Hello,

                                          I think I have already encountered this problem, when you have plugins in ProgramData in the plugin Sketucation presents a repository destination list for the plugin installation and I mistakenly messed it up in ProgramData, but by default it is has no write rights in, which causes an error loading the plugin which wants to write in its directory, I uninstalled the plugin which was causing the problem and reinstalled the plugin in the repository which is in directory roaming and the plugin worked correctly.

                                          For the one with the name 3Dx.SketchUp, I think it's for 3d space mice, it doesn't seem like an error to me that it's there, since it's more linked to system (Machine) than user

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                                            TIG Moderator @pipinek
                                            last edited by

                                            @pipinek

                                            I think Gábor and I have devised a 'trap' to avoid this happening again.
                                            The potential paths are already 'culled' to just a few possibilities.
                                            Things like Tools and Gems etc are omitted Ruby side.
                                            Your ../gems/.../lib one slipped through, as it didn't end in ../gems

                                            We are also forcing the default path more robustly, as yours sneaked into the top of the list.
                                            When Gábor has tweaked the js side listing we'll report back...

                                            I still don't know where your ../gems/.../lib folder came to be in your $LOAD_PATH in the first place...
                                            Is it added by some other extension ?

                                            TIG

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