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    cadillacjack
    last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 05:41

    Hello, I am somewhat new to sketchup and was wondering if there was a way to add a 2d image to a face of a object that will stretch when you scale the piece larger or smaller.
    I build screen enclosures for a living and use sketchup to do layouts for different projects. I have modeled the parts 100% accurate but I have issues when I want to cut say a 45degree angle on these parts. I can’t just draw a 45degree line and cut it. I have to draw the cut on each radius of the spline grove an it makes it really time consuming. What I would like to do is create a 2”x2” square tube and just make a 2d image with 2 lines on each end about 1/8-1/4” in from the edge. This way the groves aren’t actually modeled and I can cut any degree in the piece quickly. I have attached a image of what the part actually looks like for reference. Hopefully I explained this properly and someone can help guide me. It would be greatly appreciated


    D7542D9B-C342-4E13-9005-F204142B9181.jpeg

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      Rich O Brien Moderator
      last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 10:00

      A quick and dirty way would be to use your accurate model as a texture.

      Put your view to Top and Orthographic and File > Export > 2D Graphic and make sure its .png with Transparent Background checked...

      https://i.imgur.com/fpWfmmJ.png

      Now bring the image in Sketchup as a texture and go crazy making lo-poly versions..

      https://i.imgur.com/d6Qe89x.png

      extrusion-to-texture.skp

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        nickchun
        last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 10:27

        This doesn't address your question about materials but why not use the solid tools make a 'Boolean' cut in the modelled part you made? Create cube for example, rotate it to the angle you need and place it completely across the target object. Use the 'subtract option in the solid tools. This only works if the cube and the extrusion are solids.
        The other option would be to buy Profile Builder 3, which would allow you to draw up screen frames to follow any path, and you can use your existing modelled part to make the profile to extrude.

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          TECHDAVE02
          last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 12:04

          If a solid try TIG: Cut to Plane (Pro) v1.1

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            samodelkin_77
            last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 12:42

            @nickchun said:

            "....Use the 'subtract option in the solid tools....."

            By the way, can you tell me why, when performing a logical action, the object on which this action was performed ceases to be a component? How can this be fixed in the code?

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              Rich O Brien Moderator
              last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 13:14

              @samodelkin_77 said:

              By the way, can you tell me why, when performing a logical action, the object on which this action was performed ceases to be a component? How can this be fixed in the code?

              If you dig into the component and perform your boolean operation with the component instance then your hierarchy is preserved.

              Link Preview Image
              BoolTools 2

              Designed with 3D Printing in mind, BooTools 2 outperforms the SketchUp solid tools in nearly every way. Even works with nested solids!

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              mind.sight.studios (mindsightstudios.com)

              This behaves the way you expect it to.

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                samodelkin_77
                last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 13:17

                @rich o brien said:

                @samodelkin_77 said:

                By the way, can you tell me why, when performing a logical action, the object on which this action was performed ceases to be a component? How can this be fixed in the code?

                If you dig into the component and perform your boolean operation with the component instance then your hierarchy is preserved.

                Link Preview Image
                BoolTools 2

                Designed with 3D Printing in mind, BooTools 2 outperforms the SketchUp solid tools in nearly every way. Even works with nested solids!

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                mind.sight.studios (mindsightstudios.com)

                This behaves the way you expect it to.

                But this plugin is paid, I wanted to do with standard tools...

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                  Box
                  last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 13:27

                  @samodelkin_77 said:

                  But this plugin is paid, I wanted to do with standard tools...

                  Well then as Rich mention, temporarily make the contents of the component a group, perform the solid tool action on that group, then explode the result, leaving you with the original component and all other instances edited as you want.

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                    Box
                    last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 13:33

                    We have gone off topic now, but like this.


                    GIF 27-07-2022 11-33-18 PM.gif

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                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                      last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 13:34

                      You could learn Ruby and program your own tool too. The world is your oyster.

                      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp

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                        samodelkin_77
                        last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 13:52

                        @box said:

                        We have gone off topic now, but like this.

                        Thank you, it's more understandable))
                        But somehow a lot of operations..
                        Now, after a logical operation, I make a component from the resulting object again...
                        (but this is in cases when I don't need to edit many components) And so yes, your method is the most suitable)

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                          cadillacjack
                          last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 14:08

                          @rich o brien said:

                          A quick and dirty way would be to use your accurate model as a texture.

                          Put your view to Top and Orthographic and File > Export > 2D Graphic and make sure its .png with Transparent Background checked...

                          https://i.imgur.com/fpWfmmJ.png

                          Now bring the image in Sketchup as a texture and go crazy making lo-poly versions..

                          https://i.imgur.com/d6Qe89x.png

                          [attachment=2:2jabwvfk]<!-- ia2 -->extrusion-to-texture.skp<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:2jabwvfk]

                          so this is exactly what i want but when i try to do this i cant get the 2d image to lay properly across the 2x2. any idea why? i have attached an image as well at the modeled piece


                          22.png


                          spline.skp

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                            Box
                            last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 14:14

                            The only added step is to enter the component, triple click, make group, then explode at the end.
                            If you don't want to make those clicks but the plugin.

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                              Rich O Brien Moderator
                              last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 14:27

                              @cadillacjack said:

                              so this is exactly what i want

                              Do I win a prize?

                              @cadillacjack said:

                              i cant get the 2d image to lay properly across the 2x2. any idea why?

                              Because the exported png has transparency the same dimensions as the SketchUp viewport. It doesn't trim the transparent away unfortunately.

                              You can trim it in an image editor or crop away in SketchUp.

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                                Dave R
                                last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 16:28

                                It seems to me that you are making this much more difficult than it needs to be. I don't quite understand why the texture is coming into this at all. Modeling the geometry of the extrusion is simple enough and cutting miters is not difficult and doesn't need to be time consuming. A Boolean operation (Trim or SUbtract) would be easy to set up and quick to execute. If you want to start from a component of the extrusion (I would) and wind up with a component, you could use BoolTools2 as was suggested or you could use Eneroth Solid Tools which are available at no charge.

                                Click on the picture

                                Simple and quick model made from a screen shot of the dimensioned drawing. No need to add internal channels unless they are important to the model.

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                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by 27 Jul 2022, 16:43

                                  Rereading your OP. If you had an image of the long side with the grooves in it, you could use that as a texture on the one face or a simple extruded box. Then mitering it would be trivial with either a drawn diagonal and Push/Pull or just moving an edge. If you don't need the internal details at all, don't model it as a hollow shape.
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