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    • medeekM Offline
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      Version 0.9.4 - 09.16.2024

      • Added joist hangers to the Draw and Edit menus.
      • Added a built-in library of face mount and and top flange hangers.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
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        Tutorial 2 - Joist Hangers (19:57 min.)

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
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          Version 0.9.5 - 09.18.2024

          • Added a joist direction arrow to the draw floor tool.
          • Added a "debug mode" parameter to the General tab of the Global Settings.
          • Fixed a bug with deck board placement.
          • Fixed a bug with the deck board offset parameter.

          floor_su054_800.jpg

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
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            I have had two requests now for metal bridging or bracing so I took about an hour and modeled up a Simpson TB27 between 2X10 joists @ 16" on center. It actually looks really nice:

            However some things immediately jumped out at me:

            1.) I based my TB27 off of the ICF file on Simpson's website so it is dimensionally accurate, however to do that takes quite a bit of time. Modeling like this is fun but very time consuming and one thing I never have enough of is time.

            2.) This is the TB27 configured for 2X10's on 16" centers, now think of all the other permutations (including I-Joists). To make this look right would require a preconfigured component for each case. The number of permutations is at least 130 or more.

            3.) If you also consider custom offsets of specific joists then it gets even more crazy.

            My thinking is that if I do want to enable something like this it will need to be less detailed geometrically (just a basic representation) and drawn on the fly using an algorithm that checks joist depth and spacing. Rather than specify the exact part number (ie. TB20, TB27, TB30 etc...), just specify that it is metal bridging.

            floor_su055_800.jpg

            floor_su056_800.jpg

            floor_su057_800.jpg

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • gullfoG Offline
              gullfo @medeek
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              agreed - i'd say less detail on the components to improve speed and rendering, and just good descriptive text / names instead. one option might be in a "library" view showing a detailed version of a single component so selection purposes, but the generated structure uses the simpliest possible geometry.

              Glenn

              http://www.runnel.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
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                Version 0.9.6 - 09.19.2024

                • Fixed a bug with metric floor presets.
                • Fixed a bug with the insulation module.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
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                  I am changing up the way in which I do subtractive geometry from the way I've done it with the other plugins in the past.

                  If you enable Subtractive Geometry in the global settings you can use the SUBTRACT keyword to cut holes through everything as per normal. However you will now also have two other options:

                  SUBTRACT_SHEATH: This keyword will only subtract through sheathing, flooring and deck boards.

                  SUBTRACT_GYPSUM: This keyword will only subtract through gypsum

                  I may add others as the need arises or additional requests are made.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    Adding in the advanced floor options into the Global Settings:

                    floor_su0floor_su060_800.jpg 59_800.jpg

                    I am working on adding in metal bridging with some associated parameters:

                    floor_su060_800.jpg

                    P.S.
                    I was going to combine the metal bridging with the solid blocking however after some thought I realized there might be cases where you might combine both forms of bracing in one floor (solid blocking and metal bridging). Hence I need a separate module for blocking. Unlike the wall blocking floor blocking may be regular lumber or I-Joist blocking so that further complicates the matter slightly.

                    The parameters for the blocking module will probably be:

                    1.) Blocking Type: Lumber/I-Joist

                    If blocking type is Lumber:

                    Blocking Width: 1.5 in (default)

                    Blocking Material: Lumber / PT Lumber / LSL / PSL / LVL etc...

                    If blocking type is I-Joist

                    Blocking I-Joist Family:

                    Blocking I-Joist Type:

                    other general parameters are:

                    Row Spacing: 96 in. (default)

                    Stagger Blocking: Yes/No

                    Remove Row: empty by default

                    Quite a few more parameters (8) to add into a number of files, this will keep me busy for a couple of days at least.

                    floor_su061_800.jpg

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      First look at metal bridging (I-joist and Lumber):

                      floor_su069_800.jpg

                      floor_su070_800.jpg

                      Geometrically a lot simpler and more lightweight than the preconfigured component that I made based off of the Simpson IFC model. I'm using my galvanized texture/material but I may change it slightly. There are quite a few parameters that one can adjust to customize the look and feel of these metal bridging straps, hopefully that should make things configurable enough for most power users.

                      As noted per the Simpson literature the crossing straps should not be in direct contact to avoid screeching noises when they move under load. Hence the default 1/8" gap, but this can be modified as can be seen in the menu.

                      I've also included a thickness parameter for the straps. The correct thickness for a 20 gauge strap is probably around 0.035" however I've rounded the default value to an even 0.04".

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        Version 0.9.7 - 09.23.2024

                        • Updated the SUBTRACT feature with three other options.
                        • Added seven advanced options in the Floor tab of the Global Settings.
                        • Added metal bridging to the Draw and Edit menus.
                        • Added solid blocking (Lumber and I-Joist) to the Draw and Edit menus.
                        • Fixed minor bugs in the HTML menus and preset system.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by

                          Tutorial 3 - Metal Bridging and Blocking (10:28 min.)

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by

                            Version 0.9.8 - 09.27.2024

                            • Made the polyline/face icon (draw mode) in the draw menu clickable.
                            • Added a joist direction toggle button/icon to the draw and edit menus.
                            • Added a stagger joist option to the Draw and Edit menus.
                            • Updated the insulation, blocking, metal bridging and hanger modules to accommodate staggered joists.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              So yes, staggered joist present a few issues. For example if the blocking doesn't land in the lapped region of the joist layout you end up with this:

                              floor_su081_800.jpg

                              Right at the moment I'm not sure how to address this or actually determine when the blocking lands in the non-lapped sections of the layout. The easy way out would be to do a boolean subtraction using the joists themselves, but then I would need to separate the resulting (multi-body) group into a bunch of groups/solids, this one is a bit of headache.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                With staggered joists I am tracking how many rows of joists I need, the joist length and lapped length, so given that information (three variables) I can then run a quick check on each blocking row to see how it pencils out. This little block of code does the trick:

                                if @Spanno < 2
                                			stoffset = 'NEG'
                                		else
                                			lapcount = 1
                                			for lapi in @Stjarray
                                				if (distx > lapi[0]) && (distx < lapi[1])
                                					stoffset = 'LAP'
                                					break
                                				elsif distx < lapi[0]
                                					if lapcount.odd?
                                						stoffset = 'NEG'
                                					else
                                						stoffset = 'POS'
                                					end
                                					break
                                				elsif (distx > lapi[1]) && (lapcount == (@Spanno - 1))
                                					if lapcount.odd?
                                						stoffset = 'POS'
                                					else
                                						stoffset = 'NEG'
                                					end
                                					break
                                				end
                                
                                				lapcount = lapcount + 1
                                			end
                                				
                                		end
                                

                                As one can see there are really only three possibilities for the blocking: Lapped, Positive or Negative.

                                The end result is this:

                                floor_su082_800.jpg
                                Problem solved. Now I just need to apply this same logic to the metal bracing and implement it. Insulation is somewhat different so I still don’t have a good solution for that one just yet.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • medeekM Offline
                                  medeek
                                  last edited by

                                  After another three hours of some productive thought and hacking away at some rather large blocks of code (and a few choice words) I managed to pull together a fairly efficient and robust algorithm for the cavity insulation between those irregular joists.

                                  Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you “Batt Insulation with Staggered Joists”:

                                  floor_su086_800.jpg

                                  floor_su087_800.jpg

                                  I’m exhausted, tomorrow I might take a small break.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • gullfoG Offline
                                    gullfo @medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    what if i want them staggered the other way? LOL J.K. nicely done!

                                    Glenn

                                    http://www.runnel.com

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                                    • medeekM Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by

                                      First look at skewed hangers with staggered joists:

                                      floor_su096_800.jpg

                                      A little bit more complicated than regular joists due to the offsets but overall its pretty much the same routine. Pretty excited that I actually can get this to work, at first I wasn't really sure if it was even feasible.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        Version 0.9.9 - 10.01.2024

                                        • Further updated the insulation, blocking, metal bridging and hanger modules to accommodate staggered joists.
                                        • Added skewed hanger options into the Floor tab of the Global Settings.
                                        • Added skewed hangers to the Draw and Edit menus.
                                        • Added the following skewed (45 degree) Simpson hangers into the built-in library: SUL24, SUL26, SUL210, SUL214, SUL1819, SUL18111, SUL18114, SUL2069, SUL20611, SUL20614, SUR24, SUR26, SUR210, SUR214, SUR1819, SUR18111, SUR18114, SUR2069, SUR20611, SUR20614
                                        • Updated and added a new subtraction mode to the SUBTRACT feature: SUBTRACT_JOIST
                                        • Added Subtractive Geometry (Joist) in the General tab of the Global Settings.

                                        floor_su097_800.jpg

                                        floor_su098_800.jpg

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
                                          last edited by

                                          Version 0.9.9b - 10.01.2024

                                          • Updated the Floor tab of the Global Settings with additional parameters for joist construction.
                                          • Fixed a minor bug with the hanger module for double ply staggered studs.
                                          • Fixed a bug in the Draw and Edit menus so that all hangers in the library are properly displayed.
                                          • Added the following skewed (45 degree) Simpson hangers into the built-in library (skew_hangers): SUL410, SUL414, SUL214_2, SUL210_2, SUL26_2, SUR410, SUR414, SUR214_2, SUR210_2, SUR26_2

                                          floor_su099_800.jpg

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                            medeek
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                                            Version 0.9.9c - 10.03.2024

                                            • Enabled diagonal deck boards with the addition of a Board rotation parameter.
                                            • Enabled 2-Ply rim joists with our without an air gap.

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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