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  • M Offline
    medeek
    last edited by medeek 21 May 2025, 05:33

    The Floor Opening toolbar will now contain a sixth tool called “Stretch Header” which will allow the user to stretch the opening headers in a more intuitive fashion:

    floor_openings_su_menu_active.jpg

    I’m not really wanting to add more icons to my already bloated toolbars but I feel like this will be a very worthwhile tool and it will almost certainly makes everyone’s life a little easier when it comes to these openings.

    I am also working on enabling double and triple ply headers, so much to do and never enough time to accomplish it all it seems.

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      MtnArch
      last edited by 21 May 2025, 14:26

      The joists that the headers frame into normally will be doubled as well, or could be a single heavier (different) joist.

      Highest Regards,

      Alan T. Hendry, RA
      Architect

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        medeek
        last edited by 22 May 2025, 10:06

        Version 1.0.2 - 05.22.2025

        • Enabled multi-ply floor headers for openings.
        • Enabled variable lengths for staggered joists.

        floor_su262_800.jpg

        floor_su263_800.jpg

        You can now enter in a single value for the joist length or you can enter in a list of lengths deliminated by commas. This update per user request.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          medeek
          last edited by 23 May 2025, 07:10

          Version 1.0.2b - 05.23.2025
          -Updated the joist removal function for more granular usage when working with staggered joists.

          I apologize for all of these micro updates, I would have preferred to roll this out after adding a few more features etc... However, the user who requested this specific ability obviously needs it to complete their project so it is simply a matter of expediency.

          floor_su264_800.jpg

          Now one can not only specify a single line of joists to remove but also remove specific joists from a given line, see screenshot above and note the syntax in the Remove Joists field.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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            medeek
            last edited by 23 May 2025, 08:13

            Tutorial 23 - Joist Removal (8:06 min.)

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • M Offline
              medeek
              last edited by 25 May 2025, 12:07

              Version 1.0.3 - 05.25.2025

              • Enabled I-Joist floor headers for openings.

              floor_su266_800.jpg

              floor_su267_800.jpg

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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                gullfo
                last edited by 25 May 2025, 14:37

                i think the one double on the right side needs to extend to the next joist. the trimmer is ok where it is to size the opening, but structurally always best to have the joists and headers linked.

                image.png

                Glenn

                http://www.runnel.com

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                  medeek
                  last edited by 26 May 2025, 09:19

                  Version 1.0.4 - 05.26.2025

                  • Enabled joist hangers for openings.

                  floor_su269_800.jpg

                  Tutorial 24 - Joist Hangers and Openings (7:58 min.)

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                    medeek
                    last edited by 30 May 2025, 22:27

                    Version 1.0.5 - 05.30.2025

                    • Added the ability to stretch opening headers with the "Stretch Floor Header" tool.

                    Tutorial 25 - Stretching Opening Headers (7:50 min.)

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                      gullfo
                      last edited by 31 May 2025, 16:58

                      i think this is a good solution - otherwise you'd have to do all the other computations for where existing parallel joists are located. whereas here, you let the user crate the extensions on the header as needed or desired. cheers!

                      Glenn

                      http://www.runnel.com

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                      • M Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by 31 May 2025, 23:19

                        Version 1.0.6 - 05.31.2025

                        • Added an edit function to the "Stretch Floor Header" tool.
                        • Added a "Timber" header type for floor openings.
                        • Fixed minor bugs in the floor opening module.

                        floor_su270_800.jpg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 31 May 2025, 23:21

                          Tutorial 26 - Editing Opening Headers (5:00 min.)

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            medeek
                            last edited by 4 Jun 2025, 06:11

                            After a full day of tinkering and refactoring a bunch of the original floor truss code I think I now have the multi-chase algorithm working:

                            floor_su273_800.jpg

                            Note how the chases all line up even though there are five or six different truss profiles within this assembly. I still need to create the web generator between the central sections of the truss profile, there is quite a bit going on here. I am still a few days out from completing the programming and then another two or three days of testing and further debugging.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 6 Jun 2025, 16:28

                              Looks like I’m about 95% there with floor trusses:

                              floor_su276_800.jpg
                              floor_su277_800.jpg
                              floor_su278_800.jpg

                              The only issue appears to be what happens when ribbon boards are enabled and you have an inside corner as shown. I probably need to add in some additional logic to eliminate the slot for the ribbon board in these cases.

                              floor_su279_800.jpg

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                gullfo
                                last edited by 6 Jun 2025, 16:50

                                looking good. also - there is some "clumping" of members on the left-hand side of the right-hand chase. likely due to having a second change and the sizing of the middle truss members (maybe instead a long one and clumped one, make two even one as i think this is how they would be manufactured)

                                Glenn

                                http://www.runnel.com

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 7 Jun 2025, 02:53

                                  Version 1.0.7 - 06.06.2025

                                  • Enabled MPC Wood Trusses with ribbon boards, multiple chases and gable trusses.
                                  • Updated the Move Floor Edge tool so that it also toggles the metal plate connector layer.
                                  • Update the SUBTRACT_JOIST feature so that it can adequately handle MPC wood trusses.

                                  Tutorial 27 - MPC Wood Trusses (13:25 min.)

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 9 Jun 2025, 05:17

                                    Version 1.0.8 - 06.08.2025

                                    • Updated the SUBTRACT and SUBTRACT_JOIST features so that they can better handle MPC wood trusses, steel trusses and open web "Redbuilt" trusses.
                                    • Updated the Floor Opening module so that it can handle MPC wood trusses, steel trusses and open web "Redbuilt" trusses.
                                    • Added a "None" option for the header type in the draw and edit menus for floor openings.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by medeek 6 Sept 2025, 19:11 9 Jun 2025, 19:10

                                      In many cases when you introduce a stairwell opening into a floor like this it will be along the perimeter of the floor assembly as shown. In these cases it is simpler to create your floor perimeter with the opening in mind:

                                      Note, in order to create the additional gable truss (2x6 ply) I first changed my ply width to 5.5" then copied the gable truss at the interior of the stair well, then pasted it in place in the root of the model and then edited the floor assembly back to the typical 3.5" ply width. Alternatively one could simply frame this small pony wall with the Wall plugin (ie. conventional framing) just as easily.

                                      I'm not exactly sure how the trusses would work where the LVL beam/header is positioned at the start of the stairwell, obviously we would need some kind of header at that location.

                                      Here is a link to the model for those who are interested in examining this floor truss example in more detail:

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                                      floor_su289_800.jpg

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 18 Jun 2025, 00:48

                                        Version 1.0.9 - 06.17.2025

                                        • Added the floor truss toolbar with the following two items: Draw Beam Pocket, Delete Beam Pocket.
                                        • Enabled beam pockets for MPC wood trusses.
                                        • Fixed a bug with short span steel trusses.

                                        floor_truss_su_menu_active.jpg

                                        Tutorial 28 - Beam Pockets with Floor Trusses (8:00 min.)

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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