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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      The face used for the FollowMe must be positioned perpendicular to the start of the path.

      You must either manipulate the face to be perpendicular or add an extra edge onto the start [and end?] of the path so the form is as expected.
      You then erase the unwanted geometry...

      Note that convoluted paths can 'twist' the extrusion of some faces.
      There are some extensions available which try to sidestep this - e.g. look at Eneroth's at the EWH...
      https://extensions.sketchup.com/en/content/eneroth-upright-extruder

      TIG

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      • S Offline
        slbaumgartner
        last edited by

        There are some known limitations of follow me. Probably the best known is the consequence of SketchUp's small edges (in)tolerance, which can lead to holes in the extrusion from loss of small faces. The workaround is to enlarge the geometry before doing the operation.

        But there are also issues when the profile is too large compared to the radius of curves in the path. In such cases follow me may create spurious "wings" jutting from of the extrusion at the curves. Evidently the algorithm can't figure out how to clean them up to form a tidy miter. One workaround that often works is to make sure that the profile is positioned to the outside of all tight curves, as the follow me algorithm has less trouble pivoting the profile around that way (though, again, it can produce small edges at the inside of the curved extrusion).

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        • M Offline
          magazines
          last edited by

          Hello and thank you for both of your suggestions.

          Tig, I have retried with a confirmed perpendicular face and a bit of a starter rail too. In this case it seems as though it didn't do the trick. And thanks for the suggestion of the Upright Extruder plugin by Eneroth. It definitely seems to have treated the process differently, but unfortunately perhaps produced even more internal geometry to clean up. If you had other recommended plugins to try I'd be interested to give them a go - I don't see any obvious ones in the plugin store.

          slbaumgartner, you got it right on. The thing is that if I could just click "intersect geometry" and erase a bunch of interior lines/faces I would do it and be fine. The micro lines are the killer here though - they take forever to find and they are quite insidious - on both inside and outside of the form. I did start at 10" but have run into short lines before and about a week back shifted to 10' scale to try to minimize the scale issues. Still very small holes that literally disappear when I zoom in continue to exist.

          I find myself wishing there was some way to select a shell form and then just eliminate all interior geometry from that, but neither I nor Solid Solver or Solid Inspector can really make a closed form here.

          I think my next plan is to draw a more simple plug on top of where the inside of the conical space should go and try to use trim to cut this away from a block with the outer form of the letter. But I can only do this as a workaround since this is not time-sensitive, it wouldn't work in a normal circumstance.
          As I say, thank you both for your suggestions. I appreciate them and any other ways that you might suggest I approach the problem.


          2nd try


          follow me problems.skp

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          • gillesG Offline
            gilles
            last edited by

            Please save your file in a previous version of SU, at least 2015 or even V8.
            Lot of people do not update every year.

            " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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            • jujuJ Offline
              juju
              last edited by

              @gilles said:

              Please save your file in a previous version of SU, at least 2015 or even V8.
              Lot of people do not update every year.

              Eneroth Open Newer Version

              Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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              • gillesG Offline
                gilles
                last edited by

                @juju said:

                @gilles said:

                Please save your file in a previous version of SU, at least 2015 or even V8.
                Lot of people do not update every year.

                Eneroth Open Newer Version

                Only supported by 64 bit Windows. πŸ˜‰

                " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  I never understood why people don't save any time by default in V6 ❓
                  (look at the "6" - there is no problem) πŸ’š

                  https://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=146372


                  follow me problems_v6.skp

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • jujuJ Offline
                    juju
                    last edited by

                    @pilou said:

                    I never understood why people don't save any time by default in V6 ❓
                    (look at the "6" - there is no problem) πŸ’š

                    https://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=146372

                    Personally, I don't understand why someone would still run version 6 / 7/ 8 anything lower than 2016.

                    Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Personally, I don't understand why someone would still run version 6 / 7/ 8 anything lower than 2016.

                      Here it's not the problem : someone has a 32 bits system!
                      So he can't use the trick of the "Open Newer Version"

                      So the V6 is the cool go betweener for any situation! πŸ˜„
                      (except Dynamic components) but I quasi never seen someone post something with them! πŸ’š

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • M Offline
                        magazines
                        last edited by

                        Yep! I totally agree. I wish that the new versions of sketchup would not always default to the newest version to save. This is really why. This constantly causes me trouble when I go to use a computer connected to a CNC cutter I have access to. Have to remember to save as ver 2015 or it just doesn't work. And I suspect it's forced obsolescence, not a mandate that the versions be incompatible. Aaargh!

                        Oh and Pilou, that 6 is exactly the kind of thing I'm working from! That much I have, it's when the center of the bottom loop of the 6 becomes a closed cone that I get my problems.

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