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    • E Offline
      excellion02
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      Error Loading File Fredo6_FredoCorner/__loader__FredoCorner
      Could not find included file 'Fredo6_FredoCorner/__loader__FredoCorner'
      sir, what is this error? help me please. thank you!

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        @excellion02 said:

        Error Loading File Fredo6_FredoCorner/__loader__FredoCorner
        Could not find included file 'Fredo6_FredoCorner/__loader__FredoCorner'
        sir, what is this error? help me please. thank you!
        Have you installed the downloaded RBZ using the native tool [or SketchUcation's toolset] ?
        Assuming this was done OK... have you also downloaded and installed the required Fredo Lib ?
        https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=LibFredo6
        Restart SketchUp after the installation of these files to ensure they get synced...

        If you still have these issues, then SketchUp itself might not be properly installed... but then that's for the next phase of trouble shooting !

        TIG

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          ogg1e
          last edited by

          Can this be used to round the outside corners of this object? It's a headphone case, and I'd like to smooth the edges of the slots that the wires come out.

          I've tried to use this plugin (and roundcorners) but I haven't had any luck so far to get it to work.


          pixel-headphone-case-v2.skp

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            Your object is too small - SketchUp's tolerance of 1/1000" causes any very tiny edges to get omitted, because the start/end points are deemed to be coincident - then supported faces etc also fail to form.

            The 'DaveR' method should circumvent the problem.
            Select all of your object, and make it into a component.
            Make a temporary copy of it off to one side and Scale that up, by say x100.
            Edit the giant component and do the rounding etc - remembering to adjust the radii by the scaling factor - so 0.5mm => 50mm.
            Now exit the edit and delete the giant temporary copy.
            The original [unscaled] instance will show the desired rounding etc...

            Here's a quick screenshot of it with View > hidden geometry ON [a little editing/healing was needed afterwards]...
            Very tiny geometry can exist, BUT it cannot be created !


            Capture.PNG

            TIG

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            • MANaboutTOOLSM Offline
              MANaboutTOOLS
              last edited by

              Hi,

              Having an issue with corners on this geometry. Using a Mac.

              Screen Shot 2018-11-28 at 2.05.05 PM copy.jpg
              Screen Shot 2018-11-28 at 2.06.06 PM copy.jpg
              Screen Shot 2018-11-28 at 2.06.31 PM copy.jpg

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                ogg1e
                last edited by

                @tig said:

                Your object is too small - SketchUp's tolerance of 1/1000" causes any very tiny edges to get omitted, because the start/end points are deemed to be coincident - then supported faces etc also fail to form.

                The 'DaveR' method should circumvent the problem.
                Select all of your object, and make it into a component.
                Make a temporary copy of it off to one side and Scale that up, by say x100.
                Edit the giant component and do the rounding etc - remembering to adjust the radii by the scaling factor - so 0.5mm => 50mm.
                Now exit the edit and delete the giant temporary copy.
                The original [unscaled] instance will show the desired rounding etc...

                Here's a quick screenshot of it with View > hidden geometry ON [a little editing/healing was needed afterwards]...
                Very tiny geometry can exist, BUT it cannot be created !

                That looks like what I want!

                I'm not having much luck, even with your instructions. It's still behaving the same as when it was small... No idea what I'm doing wrong.

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                  ogg1e
                  last edited by

                  @ogg1e said:

                  @tig said:

                  Your object is too small - SketchUp's tolerance of 1/1000" causes any very tiny edges to get omitted, because the start/end points are deemed to be coincident - then supported faces etc also fail to form.

                  The 'DaveR' method should circumvent the problem.
                  Select all of your object, and make it into a component.
                  Make a temporary copy of it off to one side and Scale that up, by say x100.
                  Edit the giant component and do the rounding etc - remembering to adjust the radii by the scaling factor - so 0.5mm => 50mm.
                  Now exit the edit and delete the giant temporary copy.
                  The original [unscaled] instance will show the desired rounding etc...

                  Here's a quick screenshot of it with View > hidden geometry ON [a little editing/healing was needed afterwards]...
                  Very tiny geometry can exist, BUT it cannot be created !

                  That looks like what I want!

                  I'm not having much luck, even with your instructions. It's still behaving the same as when it was small... No idea what I'm doing wrong.

                  Ok, so I spent some more time with it, and changed things like you suggested with hidden geometry and I think I have a working model now. Thanks. It was painful and time consuming to get it to a point where this extension would actually work though. The problem is if I chose to move some of the holes for the wires, I suspect I'll be back where I was before where this extension won't work.

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    SketchUp's built in tolerance of 1/1000" is what's causing your grief - not this extension.
                    You can't create very tiny edges and associated faces either manually, or in code.
                    However, they can exist.
                    The Scaling 'trick' is frequently used to get around this.

                    Complex geometry operations like 'rounding' and 'intersections' can produce some very small facets...

                    One other possible sidestep/trick is to work in the model with units set to meters, and with units not shown.
                    Then you enter all dimensions etc as if they were in mm, as simple numbers - 1234.5678 in meters is actually 1234567.8 expressed in mm...

                    Now your model is 1000x bigger and the tiny edge problems are avoided.

                    When you finally come to 3d-print the model you can scale it down by 1/1000 and reset the units to mm etc.

                    TIG

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                    • O Offline
                      ogg1e
                      last edited by

                      I wasn't blaming the extension. I apologize if it appeared that way. 😄

                      I did use metric when I designed this. But not all measurements were whole numbers.

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                      • fredo6F Offline
                        fredo6
                        last edited by

                        @ogg1e said:

                        I wasn't blaming the extension. I apologize if it appeared that way. 😄

                        I did use metric when I designed this. But not all measurements were whole numbers.

                        The model is interesting, because the geometry seems to be messed up (on top of being extra small).

                        I'll have a look, but obviously, this makes it difficult for FredoCorner to work properly.

                        Fredo

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                          swalder
                          last edited by

                          Hi

                          Before I start, thank you so so much for your work. I think it's a great decision to make this payable after all the time you have given to the sketchup community.

                          I have a question relating to the little mauve control points surrounding the corners.
                          Is the intention for these to be moveable at some point. I note if I click on them I get an error.

                          I was just having a click around and wondered if I could increase the curve profile from one end of the edge to the other. That would be amazing.... although the words "stick" and "moon" spring to mind.

                          I can achieve the same result through the SubD tool with some after manipulation I guess, but just wondered as the points seem interactable (if that's even a word).

                          Si


                          Error message


                          in this image the light green line represents how I'd like to be able to be able to manipulate the curve

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                          • fredo6F Offline
                            fredo6
                            last edited by

                            @swalder said:

                            I have a question relating to the little mauve control points surrounding the corners.
                            Is the intention for these to be moveable at some point. I note if I click on them I get an error.

                            I was just having a click around and wondered if I could increase the curve profile from one end of the edge to the other. That would be amazing.... although the words "stick" and "moon" spring to mind.

                            I'll surely make the variable offset interactive, both for offset lines and corner offsets. Currently in FredoCorner, you select them and type the new offset in the VCB.

                            Fredo

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                            • S Offline
                              swalder
                              last edited by

                              @fredo6 said:

                              I'll surely make the variable offset interactive, both for offset lines and corner offsets. Currently in FredoCorner, you select them and type the new offset in the VCB.

                              Fredo

                              tested this over the weekend and it worked absolutely seamlessly.
                              I was able to achieve the exact result I was after, thanks to you.

                              Si

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                              • fredo6F Offline
                                fredo6
                                last edited by

                                NEW RELEASE: FredoCorner v1.5a - 18 Dec 18

                                Requirement: LibFredo6 8.7a

                                FredoCorner 1.5a provides various bug fixing and extends the validity.


                                Please note that, in the current version of FredoCorner:

                                • there are issues with some shortcut modifiers (Ctrl, Alt) on Mac)
                                • there are known issues and bugs here and there. This concerns in particular Collisions, i.e. when the offset is too large.
                                • Terminal corners (that is ending on a single edge) may present issues and bugs
                                • No documentation yet, so watch the videos that I will publish.

                                Please report issues, questions and any feedback in the present thread


                                Home Page of FredoCorner for information and Download.

                                Main post of this FredoCorner thread.

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                                • duanekempD Offline
                                  duanekemp
                                  last edited by

                                  You are awesome!

                                  I should have chimed in earlier... but, this is really cool.

                                  Thank you.

                                  Duane Kemp

                                  Kemp Productions
                                  Puidoux, Switzerland
                                  Gallery:
                                  https://duanekemp.artstation.com/

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                                  • fredo6F Offline
                                    fredo6
                                    last edited by

                                    NEW RELEASE: FredoCorner v1.5b - 10 Jan 19

                                    Requirement: LibFredo6 8.7f

                                    FredoCorner 1.5b provides various bug fixing and extends the validity.


                                    Please note that, in the current version of FredoCorner:

                                    • there are issues with some shortcut modifiers (Ctrl, Alt) on Mac)
                                    • there are known issues and bugs here and there. This concerns in particular Collisions, i.e. when the offset is too large.
                                    • Terminal corners (that is ending on a single edge) may present issues and bugs
                                    • No documentation yet, so watch the videos that I will publish.

                                    Please report issues, questions and any feedback in the present thread


                                    Home Page of FredoCorner for information and Download.

                                    Main post of this FredoCorner thread.

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                                    • H Offline
                                      hssnjsm
                                      last edited by

                                      The new update isn't working,
                                      shows INVALID no good edges at the face message, for every shape.

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                                      • fredo6F Offline
                                        fredo6
                                        last edited by

                                        @hssnjsm said:

                                        The new update isn't working,
                                        shows INVALID no good edges at the face message, for every shape.

                                        Can you check the Edge selection filter, and make sure it corresponds to the properties of the edges you want to select.

                                        FredoCorner Filter edges.png

                                        Fredo

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                                          NWAG Equipment
                                          last edited by

                                          This is Brilliant! Thank you so much!

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                                          • uwesketchU Offline
                                            uwesketch
                                            last edited by

                                            Thanks a lot Fredo for this very useful Plugin.

                                            RoundCorner was already great, but this tops it.

                                            What I realized while using the Plugin:

                                            • when pointing the mouse directly on an arrow modifier button (for instance to the left and right of the "#Seg" value) and then I click, the button to the left of it is activated. The gap between the button and the click area is about 4 mm. This is as well with other buttons. I have a Win 10 laptop with a 15" screen of 1600x900 Pixels. Not sure, if this is only on my PC.

                                            • for circles and Bezier curvers, one can choose anodd number of segments. But for Squirclethis is not working right. The point/edge below the center point is missing (consistently in the profile sceen, the preview and generated geometry).

                                            • I would very much like to have a toggle on/off button like in SubD. (SubD is great to smooth organic surfaces as I draw them for furniture, etc.). For technical objects with a lot of planar surfaces and creases containing only some roundings, FredoCorner with a "toggle on/off" would be perfect.
                                              Very cool would be, if SubD and FredoCorner could share the same "toggle on/off" button concept. The two tools complement each other.
                                              Currently when I create a FredoCorner geometry and then use SubD, I cannot use the undo/edit function with FredoCorner anymore.

                                            • With a "toggle on/off" button this point here would get obsolete:
                                              I tried to use the SubDivision function of FredoCorner to produce thereafter with SubD a rounded corner in the shape of a circle. Since SubD generates C2 surfaces the rounding will not be in the shape of a circle. To approximate a circle after subdividing, a squircle with a factor of roughly 2.3 can be generated. The subdivided corner then is pretty close to a circle. Maybe this setting could be added as a preconfigured option to the FredoCorner SubDivision function.

                                            • If you need someone to help with the German translation, please let me know. I would be glad to contribute.

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