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    I wish I could really speak French!

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    • Joe WoodJ Offline
      Joe Wood
      last edited by

      Not really, I'm dealing with a customer in Cannes France and need to translate everything which is a pain, thank dog for online translators 🙂

      I'm really just curious what that small squiggle symbol (looks like a 3) is under the the C in Francais? Never seen that before, thought it was something on my screen at first.

      I wish.png

      Joe Wood
      woodsshop.com/

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        The 'cedilla' under the C [ç] - which can be seen in several European languages - tells the reader that the 'C' is really pronounced as an 'S' sound, when other rules 'usual to that language' might tell them that it should be a said as a 'K' sound...
        So, for example with the cedilla: 'français' >> 'fransais' = which would otherwise be pronounced 'frankais' - when that's not what a Frenchman would say, and not even what we might say !
        Whereas without it a franc is said as a frank - or more correctly pronounced in french as a fronk" !

        French is full of subtle inferences which must be learned - the accents are quite logical once they are explained - they relate to how the french language was revised and missed out the S in many words - so être rather than the older ester, or île not the earlier isle - which continues in English, while it's pronounced the french way ! - I blame Cardinal Richelieu and his Académie Français - but that's another story...
        French often pronounces vowels differently, misses out final consonants too - so it's "fronsay" not "fronsays" - unless the following word starts with a vowel when the final S gets tagged on, so it's "fronsay zest..." - where the verb 'est' gets the noun's final S [as a Z-sound] as a starting sound - I think it's called 'liasion' in french - it's evident in many french sentences - to the confusion of non-native speakers !.

        Just trust Google Translate - but perhaps learn how our two languages differ AND converge...

        TIG

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        • cottyC Offline
          cotty
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          Instead of google translator you should have a look at deepl.com too.

          my SketchUp gallery

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          • Joe WoodJ Offline
            Joe Wood
            last edited by

            Oh merci pour les super informations mon SketchUp ami! 🙂

            Joe Wood
            woodsshop.com/

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
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              Yes today Deepl is more elegant, stylish, polished than Google translate! 😄
              https://www.deepl.com/translator

              "my Sketchup friend" on the context above will be more like : mon ami de Sketchup 😉

              And in general English / French there's an inversion of words!

              black panther = panthère noire
              red bull = taureau rouge (which means quasi nothing except on the tin) = taureau furieux! 😄 (furious)

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • Joe WoodJ Offline
                Joe Wood
                last edited by

                yeah I put the SketchUp in there after the translation, I'll try that deepl next time!

                Joe Wood
                woodsshop.com/

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                • Rich O BrienR Online
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
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                  @cotty said:

                  Instead of google translator you should have a look at deepl.com too.

                  That's amazing!

                  Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

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                  • StinkieS Offline
                    Stinkie
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                    Indeed! 👍

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                    • L Offline
                      liam887
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                      I do love the Google Translate live video translate function. Has saved me numerous times in the supermarket here in Sweden trying to figure out what's what!

                      VISIT MY ONLINE GALLERY
                      http://www.robotsvdinosaurs.com/

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