SketchUp 2018

Dave R

@bep said:

[attachment=0:2t4lkhmh]No Make 2018.PNG[/attachment:2t4lkhmh]https://www.sketchup.com/products/sketchup-make
https://www.sketchup.com/download/all

Nope. No SketchUp Make 2018.

aw0802

Looks like it's here!
https://www.sketchup.com/products/sketchup-pro/new-in-2018

srx

No more Sketchup Make. Just online.

driven

@unknownuser said:

Actually, it seems they just renamed it back to "Free"

it's a different product, it's what was my.sketchup web app...

all the v18 changes are for Pro, so there is no need to update v17 Make, which is being obsoleted...

john

numerobis

https://www.sketchup.com/products/sketchup-pro/new-in-2018

What a joke...

rv1974

Literally nothing. Most impudent release ever

driven

a lot of improvements 'under the hood' will make extension developers happy...

john

function

Sketchup Make gone... hard to believe

Dave R

@function said:

Sketchup Make gone... hard to believe

It's not gone. You can still use Make 2017 or earlier.

elfis

Sketchup 18.0.16975 is there more informations about changes ?

Pixero

@driven said:

a lot of improvements 'under the hood' will make extension developers happy...

john

Is there a list of changes in the api?

cuttingedge

trying the online SU free 2018.. How to use plugins??

kaas

A complete changelog would be nice. Some of my own rubies are throwing errors.

wiskill

List of complete changelog here: https://help.sketchup.com/en/article/141303

panixia

@dave r said:

@function said:

Sketchup Make gone... hard to believe

It's not gone. You can still use Make 2017 or earlier.

So basically it's gone. Let's face the reality.
Moreover is clear enough that they are developing the software in a direction which only makes sense for architects (maybe).
No improvements at all on the actual modeling tools. They are pretty much the same as sketchup 8 (they just messed some inferences and encuraged people to do bad modeling with the useless rotated rectangle, wow!).
The software is still usable only for the epic work of plugins developers.

If the strategy was intended to encourage free/make users to buy a pro license, I think that will fail really bad. They are just making Blender even more appealing.
An hobbist or a 3d generalist may think to buy sketchup, if only they pack some useful modeling features in the pro version, let's say native quad support, decent uv mapping tools, non destructive approach based on modifiers (well.. keep dreaming) or at least some basic capabilities, let's say dealing with small faces or a native sphere tool.. Nope. Nothing at all.
They officially dropped "general" modeling.

I'm not sure what they are expecting after all the work they spent developing sketchup online..
Peraphs they think someone is able to model even the most basic stuff with native sketchup tools without tons of plugins?
Come on Trimble.. that's only a toy.

panixia

@cuttingedge said:

trying the online SU free 2018.. How to use plugins??

Yeah, keep dreaming.

nlipovac

This is the completely useless edition for anyone who needs to pay for an upgrade from 2016, 2017 to 2018.
I really think that Sketchup is freeloading on plugin developers work for last two editions, to put it mildly without strong words.
One software as Blender gets a more overall update from version to version, and it is free for any use than one that you pay and get cosmetics.
Blender is developing Evee for version 2.8 next year and all we get from 2017 to 2018 is smoother graphics and smart sections.
My first impression of this is just sadness and disappointment.

cadmunkey

Knew that the aussie page wasnt fake!!!
Time to download and have a look.

baz

I was badly disappointed when Google made SketchUp free. I understand why, but I think it seriously undermined the adoption of 3D by professionals. "What, that free program?" was the reaction I often got when trying to sell my services to clients. You still hear it even now.

So Trimble moving away for support from 'Make' doesn't defrost my Kelvinator.

As for SU2018, the release notes seem to show many improvements which will improve my experience with Su.
Release notes here:
https://help.sketchup.com/en/article/141303
This is a long list, I expect to spend at least a couple of hours checking it all out.

I am frankly getting very tired of the naysayers who want bla de bla de bla ad nauseum.
Sketchup is primarily a design/drawing program. That suits me fine.
It has always from the beginning at @Last days applied the KISS principal and continues to deliver on that premise.

If it doesn't suit, please use Blender or something else and stop whinging. (Course you might have to pay for it.

derei

I think they focused on the sector that is most likely to pay for their software: architects and builders. If their job brings a lot of money, they will most likely want to pay.
So, that kind of explains why they try to turn SU in an architect's tool and take off anything that @Last meant for this software when they created it.
While this makes perfect sense in terms of business, it damages a lot in terms of other values. But we live in a world of capitalism, so there isn't much to say now.
I said it from the beginning, after Trimble acquired SU, that the fact they raised the license price just after they basically changed the application's icon, was a bad omen...