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    • R Offline
      rv1974
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      One couldn't. Vertex tools aren't 100% precise.

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      • chippwaltersC Offline
        chippwalters
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        @rv1974 said:

        One couldn't. Vertex tools aren't 100% precise.

        They've worked for me. I typically scale to ~0 two or three times in a row and haven't had any problems creating planar faces. Artisan also has a make planar feature. Both also work on non orthogonal geometry as well.

        Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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        • R Offline
          rv1974
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          Hmm.. Does 'make faces' work after x3 VT scale to 0 on NON-XY planes? I'll check it tomorrow.

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          • R Offline
            rv1974
            last edited by

            Doh! moment: I discovered Artisan's 'make planar-best'. Vertex tools are way less accurate.

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            • K Offline
              kenancakir
              last edited by

              I draw a rectangle from outside of the group, make it fit with push pull tool easily, there was one egde to move with move tool and done.. πŸ˜„

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                For this special box case with any 4 chamfers (fillets) with only native tools (a big effort from my part! πŸ’š

                • 4 guides lines on any of the original box = 4 clicks
                • Draw Oriented Rectangle (second icon of Rectangle Tools) with 3 of intersctions above = 3 Clicks
                  Push Pull this new rectangle = 1 click

                Total = 7 Clicks for an original new oriented box without chamfers(fillets)! πŸ˜„

                GIF_erase_chamfer.gif

                Just now erase the original chamfered box! πŸ˜„

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • K Offline
                  kenancakir
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                  Our ways are the same pilou.. "Thinking outside of the box" got its exact meaning.. πŸ˜„

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    Sure, maybe there is more tricky for draw easily this rectangle with less clicks! πŸ€“
                    What is your method ?

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                    • chippwaltersC Offline
                      chippwalters
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                      @pilou said:

                      For this special box case with any 4 chamfers (fillets) with only native tools (a big effort from my part! πŸ’š

                      • 4 guides lines on any of the original box = 4 clicks
                      • Draw Oriented Rectangle (second icon of Rectangle Tools) with 3 of intersctions above = 3 Clicks
                        Push Pull this new rectangle = 1 click

                      Total = 7 Clicks for an original new oriented box without chamfers(fillets)! πŸ˜„

                      [attachment=0:1oo1awgy]<!-- ia0 -->GIF_erase_chamfer.gif<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1oo1awgy]

                      Just now erase the original chamfered box! πŸ˜„

                      OK. But now try it with the file I provided. A simple pushpull extrude won't get it because the sides are NOT parallel.

                      Here's the link again...
                      FILE:
                      https://altuit.cloud/web/3Dnew/chamfer.skp

                      Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        the sides are NOT parallel.

                        Yes so that is not a general box but a polyedra! πŸ’š
                        So a new mini challenge! β˜€

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • K Offline
                          kenancakir
                          last edited by

                          I tried with the shared rectangle with pen tool, as i said above, Δ± draw a rectangle that is paralel to the edges, made it fit with push pull tool and there was one edge not fit, selecting edge and moving with move tool solved that..


                          Ekran AlΔ±ntΔ±sΔ±.PNG


                          Ekran AlΔ±ntΔ±sΔ±1.PNG

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                          • kimi kimiK Offline
                            kimi kimi
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                            Here is my method (I'm not good at making GIFs):

                            1. Select all the main or big faces
                            2. Copy
                            3. Select everything
                            4. Delete
                            5. Paste in place
                            6. Offset, offset, offset on the outside, all of them
                            7. Clean up with CleanUp
                            8. Select all- intersect with selection
                            9. Select those big faces again
                            10. Copy
                            11. Select all
                            12. Delete
                            13. Paste in place.

                            Seems complicated, but it isn't.

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              The icon "F" of the Join Push Pull Interactive by Fredo makes the trick
                              for 2 faces around a chamfer! πŸ˜„

                              A sort of smart Push Pull! πŸ€“
                              So all faces in addition to the 2 faces
                              around the chamfer can have any orientations!

                              Maybe 2 Guides lines are necessary for the intersection!
                              because seems interferences don't works inside the plugin itself!

                              Alas it's only 2 faces by 2 faces! πŸ’š

                              GIF_iconef.gif

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • chippwaltersC Offline
                                chippwalters
                                last edited by

                                @pilou said:

                                The icon "F" of the Join Push Pull Interactive by Fredo makes the trick
                                for 2 faces around a chamfer! πŸ˜„

                                A sort of smart Push Pull! πŸ€“
                                So all faces in addition to the 2 faces
                                around the chamfer can have any orientations!

                                Maybe 2 Guides lines are necessary for the intersection!
                                because seems interferences don't works inside the plugin itself!

                                Alas it's only 2 faces by 2 faces! πŸ’š

                                [attachment=0:x9keu75d]<!-- ia0 -->GIF_iconef.gif<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:x9keu75d]

                                Brilliant! Once again, creative thinking by the French! And the solution I was hoping for by posting this challenge. Much appreciated πŸ˜„

                                Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                  chippwalters
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                                  @kimi kimi said:

                                  Here is my method (I'm not good at making GIFs):

                                  1. Select all the main or big faces
                                  2. Copy
                                  3. Select everything
                                  4. Delete
                                  5. Paste in place
                                  6. Offset, offset, offset on the outside, all of them
                                  7. Clean up with CleanUp
                                  8. Select all- intersect with selection
                                  9. Select those big faces again
                                  10. Copy
                                  11. Select all
                                  12. Delete
                                  13. Paste in place.

                                  Seems complicated, but it isn't.

                                  Another fine fine solution. Thanks for your help!

                                  Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                  • JQLJ Offline
                                    JQL
                                    last edited by

                                    I usually do the following:

                                    1 - select all;
                                    2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                    3 - group and delete group;
                                    4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                    5 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                    Step 4 is the one that needs getting used to.

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      When you say

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      2 - remove big faces from selection;

                                      it's not more little faces so the chamfer(s) ?
                                      No clean up necessary!

                                      Cool but again it's face by face! πŸ˜‰

                                      Here zoom is needing for more precision to click the face + segment! πŸ€“
                                      GIF_extend.gif

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • JQLJ Offline
                                        JQL
                                        last edited by

                                        @pilou said:

                                        When you say

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        2 - remove big faces from selection;

                                        it's not more little faces so the chamfer(s) ?
                                        No clean up necessary!

                                        Cool but again it's face by face! πŸ˜‰

                                        Here zoom is needing for more precision to click the face + segment! πŸ€“
                                        [attachment=0:2ikvu9kh]<!-- ia0 -->GIF_extend.gif<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2ikvu9kh]

                                        sorry I fotgot about the generate faces plugin. I use the one from tools on surface.

                                        And I really meant rwmove big faces from selection. They are easier to pick and if you remove them when you create the group, it becomes composed pnly of all small faces. Then, When you delete the group you delete only the small faces and keep the big ones.

                                        @jql said:

                                        I usually do the following:

                                        1 - select all;
                                        2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                        3 - group and delete group;
                                        4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                        5 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                        Step 4 is the one that needs getting used to.

                                        so, after review, I still thin the fastest method is:

                                        1 - select all;
                                        2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                        3 - group and delete group;
                                        4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                        5 - Generate faces using a plugin (tools on surface is my choice)
                                        6 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                        It does require manual work, but all do until now, and this is the easiest I know, and I tried a lot.

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                                        • chippwaltersC Offline
                                          chippwalters
                                          last edited by

                                          @jql said:

                                          @pilou said:

                                          When you say

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          2 - remove big faces from selection;

                                          it's not more little faces so the chamfer(s) ?
                                          No clean up necessary!

                                          Cool but again it's face by face! πŸ˜‰

                                          Here zoom is needing for more precision to click the face + segment! πŸ€“
                                          [attachment=0:3jt9ho9s]<!-- ia0 -->GIF_extend.gif<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3jt9ho9s]

                                          sorry I fotgot about the generate faces plugin. I use the one from tools on surface.

                                          And I really meant rwmove big faces from selection. They are easier to pick and if you remove them when you create the group, it becomes composed pnly of all small faces. Then, When you delete the group you delete only the small faces and keep the big ones.

                                          @jql said:

                                          I usually do the following:

                                          1 - select all;
                                          2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                          3 - group and delete group;
                                          4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                          5 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                          Step 4 is the one that needs getting used to.

                                          so, after review, I still thin the fastest method is:

                                          1 - select all;
                                          2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                          3 - group and delete group;
                                          4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                          5 - Generate faces using a plugin (tools on surface is my choice)
                                          6 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                          It does require manual work, but all do until now, and this is the easiest I know, and I tried a lot.

                                          Interesting. This looks like a good strategy for removing both fillets and chamfers from more complex shapes. My favorite so far!

                                          Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            1 - select all;
                                            2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                            3 - group and delete group;
                                            4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                            5 - Generate faces using a plugin (tools on surface is my choice)
                                            6 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                            A little video of these 6 steps will be fine!
                                            I am a little losted in the fog! πŸ˜„

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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