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    • chippwaltersC Offline
      chippwalters
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      @rv1974 said:

      One couldn't. Vertex tools aren't 100% precise.

      They've worked for me. I typically scale to ~0 two or three times in a row and haven't had any problems creating planar faces. Artisan also has a make planar feature. Both also work on non orthogonal geometry as well.

      Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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      • R Offline
        rv1974
        last edited by

        Hmm.. Does 'make faces' work after x3 VT scale to 0 on NON-XY planes? I'll check it tomorrow.

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        • R Offline
          rv1974
          last edited by

          Doh! moment: I discovered Artisan's 'make planar-best'. Vertex tools are way less accurate.

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          • K Offline
            kenancakir
            last edited by

            I draw a rectangle from outside of the group, make it fit with push pull tool easily, there was one egde to move with move tool and done.. πŸ˜„

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
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              For this special box case with any 4 chamfers (fillets) with only native tools (a big effort from my part! πŸ’š

              • 4 guides lines on any of the original box = 4 clicks
              • Draw Oriented Rectangle (second icon of Rectangle Tools) with 3 of intersctions above = 3 Clicks
                Push Pull this new rectangle = 1 click

              Total = 7 Clicks for an original new oriented box without chamfers(fillets)! πŸ˜„

              GIF_erase_chamfer.gif

              Just now erase the original chamfered box! πŸ˜„

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • K Offline
                kenancakir
                last edited by

                Our ways are the same pilou.. "Thinking outside of the box" got its exact meaning.. πŸ˜„

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  Sure, maybe there is more tricky for draw easily this rectangle with less clicks! πŸ€“
                  What is your method ?

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • chippwaltersC Offline
                    chippwalters
                    last edited by

                    @pilou said:

                    For this special box case with any 4 chamfers (fillets) with only native tools (a big effort from my part! πŸ’š

                    • 4 guides lines on any of the original box = 4 clicks
                    • Draw Oriented Rectangle (second icon of Rectangle Tools) with 3 of intersctions above = 3 Clicks
                      Push Pull this new rectangle = 1 click

                    Total = 7 Clicks for an original new oriented box without chamfers(fillets)! πŸ˜„

                    [attachment=0:1oo1awgy]<!-- ia0 -->GIF_erase_chamfer.gif<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1oo1awgy]

                    Just now erase the original chamfered box! πŸ˜„

                    OK. But now try it with the file I provided. A simple pushpull extrude won't get it because the sides are NOT parallel.

                    Here's the link again...
                    FILE:
                    https://altuit.cloud/web/3Dnew/chamfer.skp

                    Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
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                      @unknownuser said:

                      the sides are NOT parallel.

                      Yes so that is not a general box but a polyedra! πŸ’š
                      So a new mini challenge! β˜€

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • K Offline
                        kenancakir
                        last edited by

                        I tried with the shared rectangle with pen tool, as i said above, Δ± draw a rectangle that is paralel to the edges, made it fit with push pull tool and there was one edge not fit, selecting edge and moving with move tool solved that..


                        Ekran AlΔ±ntΔ±sΔ±.PNG


                        Ekran AlΔ±ntΔ±sΔ±1.PNG

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                        • kimi kimiK Offline
                          kimi kimi
                          last edited by

                          Here is my method (I'm not good at making GIFs):

                          1. Select all the main or big faces
                          2. Copy
                          3. Select everything
                          4. Delete
                          5. Paste in place
                          6. Offset, offset, offset on the outside, all of them
                          7. Clean up with CleanUp
                          8. Select all- intersect with selection
                          9. Select those big faces again
                          10. Copy
                          11. Select all
                          12. Delete
                          13. Paste in place.

                          Seems complicated, but it isn't.

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            The icon "F" of the Join Push Pull Interactive by Fredo makes the trick
                            for 2 faces around a chamfer! πŸ˜„

                            A sort of smart Push Pull! πŸ€“
                            So all faces in addition to the 2 faces
                            around the chamfer can have any orientations!

                            Maybe 2 Guides lines are necessary for the intersection!
                            because seems interferences don't works inside the plugin itself!

                            Alas it's only 2 faces by 2 faces! πŸ’š

                            GIF_iconef.gif

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • chippwaltersC Offline
                              chippwalters
                              last edited by

                              @pilou said:

                              The icon "F" of the Join Push Pull Interactive by Fredo makes the trick
                              for 2 faces around a chamfer! πŸ˜„

                              A sort of smart Push Pull! πŸ€“
                              So all faces in addition to the 2 faces
                              around the chamfer can have any orientations!

                              Maybe 2 Guides lines are necessary for the intersection!
                              because seems interferences don't works inside the plugin itself!

                              Alas it's only 2 faces by 2 faces! πŸ’š

                              [attachment=0:x9keu75d]<!-- ia0 -->GIF_iconef.gif<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:x9keu75d]

                              Brilliant! Once again, creative thinking by the French! And the solution I was hoping for by posting this challenge. Much appreciated πŸ˜„

                              Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                              • chippwaltersC Offline
                                chippwalters
                                last edited by

                                @kimi kimi said:

                                Here is my method (I'm not good at making GIFs):

                                1. Select all the main or big faces
                                2. Copy
                                3. Select everything
                                4. Delete
                                5. Paste in place
                                6. Offset, offset, offset on the outside, all of them
                                7. Clean up with CleanUp
                                8. Select all- intersect with selection
                                9. Select those big faces again
                                10. Copy
                                11. Select all
                                12. Delete
                                13. Paste in place.

                                Seems complicated, but it isn't.

                                Another fine fine solution. Thanks for your help!

                                Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                • JQLJ Offline
                                  JQL
                                  last edited by

                                  I usually do the following:

                                  1 - select all;
                                  2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                  3 - group and delete group;
                                  4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                  5 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                  Step 4 is the one that needs getting used to.

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    When you say

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    2 - remove big faces from selection;

                                    it's not more little faces so the chamfer(s) ?
                                    No clean up necessary!

                                    Cool but again it's face by face! πŸ˜‰

                                    Here zoom is needing for more precision to click the face + segment! πŸ€“
                                    GIF_extend.gif

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • JQLJ Offline
                                      JQL
                                      last edited by

                                      @pilou said:

                                      When you say

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      2 - remove big faces from selection;

                                      it's not more little faces so the chamfer(s) ?
                                      No clean up necessary!

                                      Cool but again it's face by face! πŸ˜‰

                                      Here zoom is needing for more precision to click the face + segment! πŸ€“
                                      [attachment=0:2ikvu9kh]<!-- ia0 -->GIF_extend.gif<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2ikvu9kh]

                                      sorry I fotgot about the generate faces plugin. I use the one from tools on surface.

                                      And I really meant rwmove big faces from selection. They are easier to pick and if you remove them when you create the group, it becomes composed pnly of all small faces. Then, When you delete the group you delete only the small faces and keep the big ones.

                                      @jql said:

                                      I usually do the following:

                                      1 - select all;
                                      2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                      3 - group and delete group;
                                      4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                      5 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                      Step 4 is the one that needs getting used to.

                                      so, after review, I still thin the fastest method is:

                                      1 - select all;
                                      2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                      3 - group and delete group;
                                      4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                      5 - Generate faces using a plugin (tools on surface is my choice)
                                      6 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                      It does require manual work, but all do until now, and this is the easiest I know, and I tried a lot.

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                                      • chippwaltersC Offline
                                        chippwalters
                                        last edited by

                                        @jql said:

                                        @pilou said:

                                        When you say

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        2 - remove big faces from selection;

                                        it's not more little faces so the chamfer(s) ?
                                        No clean up necessary!

                                        Cool but again it's face by face! πŸ˜‰

                                        Here zoom is needing for more precision to click the face + segment! πŸ€“
                                        [attachment=0:3jt9ho9s]<!-- ia0 -->GIF_extend.gif<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3jt9ho9s]

                                        sorry I fotgot about the generate faces plugin. I use the one from tools on surface.

                                        And I really meant rwmove big faces from selection. They are easier to pick and if you remove them when you create the group, it becomes composed pnly of all small faces. Then, When you delete the group you delete only the small faces and keep the big ones.

                                        @jql said:

                                        I usually do the following:

                                        1 - select all;
                                        2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                        3 - group and delete group;
                                        4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                        5 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                        Step 4 is the one that needs getting used to.

                                        so, after review, I still thin the fastest method is:

                                        1 - select all;
                                        2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                        3 - group and delete group;
                                        4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                        5 - Generate faces using a plugin (tools on surface is my choice)
                                        6 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                        It does require manual work, but all do until now, and this is the easiest I know, and I tried a lot.

                                        Interesting. This looks like a good strategy for removing both fillets and chamfers from more complex shapes. My favorite so far!

                                        Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          1 - select all;
                                          2 - remove big faces from selection;
                                          3 - group and delete group;
                                          4 - use tak2hata extend trim faces plugin;
                                          5 - Generate faces using a plugin (tools on surface is my choice)
                                          6 - then cleanup plugin if needed for merge faces and repair edges.

                                          A little video of these 6 steps will be fine!
                                          I am a little losted in the fog! πŸ˜„

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • chippwaltersC Offline
                                            chippwalters
                                            last edited by

                                            Frenchy,

                                            One of the reasons why I really enjoy using SU... the community. I figured by posting this simple challenge, I might be able to learn some new stuff-- and I certainly have! This is a really great workflow by JQL (thanks!) and here's a video of how it works.

                                            Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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