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    • L Offline
      lmtsketch
      last edited by

      I have a model that I have printed parts from, then I made some modifications (not in the problem area) but now when I save the model, Sketchup 17 wants to repair errors and opens some faces that I cannot close after the Sketchup fixes are applied.I have tried closing the faces with lines, ThomThom Cleanup2, and Microsoft 3D builder on the stl. None have worked. I would like to fix it within Sketchup. I would appreciate some advice. Thanks.


      Sketchup File

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        The right hand one fixes OK with SolidSolver...
        http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_solidsolver
        The left hand one fails - so it has difference that are too subtle to track-down.
        Delete it.
        Because the two parts appear to be mirror images, why not make a copy of the 'good' one, then move it to one side, and mirror it [using Scale > -1], and edit it to make it unique.
        Now you have two solid groups.


        Capture.PNG

        TIG

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          lmtsketch
          last edited by

          Your fix worked the first time through. I then saved each item as a component and then opened the component as a new file in order to have 2 part models. Now SolidSolver does not work on the component(I get the fix error again when trying to save. I also reopened a backup file to try and start over, this time SolidSolver blew up Sketchup and sent an error report. I am going backwards. [I did create the original 2 pieces by copying and mirroring (Flip along green, rotate blue]

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            You also seem to have scaled the instance by some large amount !
            Here's a fixed version - using instances - scaled back...


            Foot_Ball_Full_straight_hole_rec-1[fixed].skp

            TIG

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            • L Offline
              lmtsketch
              last edited by

              The first image is what I see when I first open the model you attached. The model has open spaces. The 2nd image is the Sketchup crash report when I run Solid Solver on this model.


              Open faces


              Crash Report

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Where did those missing faces come from???

                Why do you need to run SolidSolver ?
                The component is already a solid as reported in Entity Info ???

                PS:
                This is weird - when I get the SKP back it is faulty !

                TIG

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Heres a re-fixed SKP
                  Reports solid for me...


                  Foot_Ball_Full_straight_hole_rec-1[fixed].skp

                  TIG

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                  • L Offline
                    lmtsketch
                    last edited by

                    I get the same result as the first model. The only opened the file and the faces are missing.


                    Second File open

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Yes, this is very strange.
                      When I get that 2nd SKP back it has holes.

                      I didn't when I uploaded it !

                      TIG

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        I fixed the missing faces and some issues causing non-solidity...
                        This works fine for me...
                        Reopens from my copy without issues - remaining a solid !


                        Foot_Ball_Full_straight_hole_rec-1[fixed2].skp

                        TIG

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                        • L Offline
                          lmtsketch
                          last edited by

                          Yes, This time the file opened properly. I saved the parts separately and they are still good solids. I would appreciate any details on how you fixed these parts.

                          THANKS!

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            I drew over some missing faces' edges and they healed up.
                            However, the one on the shallow-dome part cause a double face to form - it was only zillions of an inch apart - but stopping it being a solid.
                            Because the edges were supporting too many faces !
                            I selected one of those faces and deleted it.
                            Then it reported as a solid.

                            I suspect that there is some incredibly tiny variance in these edges which SketchUp thinks can't support a face - or can - and then adds two faces !
                            Doh !
                            These overlaid faces can some times occur - SolidInspector will show them - but can't fix them...

                            TIG

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