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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
      last edited by Rich O Brien

      It appears that I have handrail fittings mostly working now for both circular and elliptical curved stairs. However just as with the balusters we will need a separate handrail ext. for top and bottom and a rail drop for each side (inner and outer handrails). This means another six parameters in the curved stair menu. Due to the asymmetry or nature of these curved staircases there is really no way around it.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
        last edited by Rich O Brien

        I've been also thinking about the framing that goes under these stairs and it seems to me that the methods are as varied as there are carpenters. I could provide a basic curved wall framing as shown in the screenshots below but I don't know how much use this would be to anyone as they will probably frame it differently, thoughts?

        Here are a couple additional screenshots of slightly different framing methods applied to a curved staircases:

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
          last edited by Rich O Brien

          Version 4.6.3 - 06.14.2026

          • Enabled open treads for curved stair assemblies.
          • Enabled handrail fittings for curved stair assemblies.
          • Added six additional parameters into the curved stair sub-menu for handrail extensions and upper fitting rail drops.
          • Enabled handrail posts for curved stair assemblies.
          • Enabled OTP, CUT, and VERTICAL (PTP) handrail options.
          • Added a vertical offset parameter for top posts.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
            last edited by Rich O Brien

            Version 4.6.4 - 06.15.2026

            • Added a "deck" option to the railing module.

            Note that when Railing Type is set to "Deck" there will typically be a cap rail along with an upper and lower rail. The upper and lower rail provide the support for the balusters or pickets.

            I will probably need to enable an option to disable or turn off the cap rail.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by Rich O Brien

              Version 4.6.4b - 06.16.2026

              • Added preview thumbnails into the stair draw and edit menus for posts, balusters and baluster shoes.
              • Added a "None" handrail profile for deck railings that effectively disables the cap rail.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                Currently there is no "curved" railing option yet however with a little bit of adjustment of the parameters and simply following any given set of points you can do this sort of thing:

                wall_su1236_800.jpg wall_su1237_800.jpg

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by Rich O Brien

                  @medeek just a heads up that a recent forum software update has caused loss of uploaded image files. You may notice your posts from May 15th on are missing images 😞

                  Sorry about that....

                  Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    Version 4.6.5 - 06.18.2026

                    • Added a "GLASS" baluster option for curved stair assemblies (circular and elliptical).

                    wall_su1239_800.jpg wall_su1240_800.jpg wall_su1243_800.jpg wall_su1244_800.jpg

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      Version 4.6.5b - 06.19.2026

                      • Added a “CABLE” baluster option for curved stair assemblies (circular and elliptical).

                      wall_su1245_800.jpg

                      wall_su1247_800.jpg

                      wall_su1248_800.jpg

                      wall_su1249_800.jpg

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        Currently the railing tool operates similar to the polyline stemwall tool. You select a bunch of points which then create the segments that form the polyline. In order to add the possibility of “curved” segments into this algorithm I could add in a tool which allows the user to select internal segments within the polyline. In order for the segment to be switched to “curved” it would need to meet the following criteria:

                        1.) It cannot be a start or end segment.
                        2.) It cannot be colinear with either of its adjacent segments or neighbors.
                        3.) (Optional) Both adjacent segments must not be curved.

                        The upside with this type of algorithm is that the user does not need to enter in any radii, the curved segment would always be tangent to the two adjacent segments. Also the question as to which way to orient the arc coming off the two end points is deterministic (there are four possible arc placements otherwise for a given radius).

                        My only problem with this type of system is that it may be too limiting and even confusing to some, thoughts?

                        You end up with geometry like this (either a single arc or an S-shaped double arc [biarc]).

                        The other issue is how to handle start and end segments that the user might want to set as curved.

                        wall_su1254_800.jpg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by

                          Turns out there are many possible solutions to the problem when you go from a single arc to a Hermite biarc solution. Of course not all these solutions are useful, especially where they intersect or collide with other segments of the polyline. Quite the education on this topic between Wikipedia and ChatGPT yesterday. Here as some solutions to the biarc and single arc problem:

                          wall_su1255_800.jpg wall_su1258_800.jpg wall_su1259_800.jpg wall_su1261_800.jpg wall_su1262_800.jpg wall_su1263_800.jpg wall_su1264_800.jpg wall_su1265_800.jpg

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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