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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      I am still compiling the list of words and phrases, there are a lot of menus, too many.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
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        That is the problem of very detailed program! 😉

        Ps I can make an adpatation of this page in French! 😉
        Only for the fun, (It's my hobby) ☀

        So that will be a cool training for the future Panel's Truss Translation!

        Yet made Twillight, Podium, FlexTools, Groboto (collector), ZBrush, SimLab Composer,
        3DCoat (Manual), PolyBrush, Qubicle2, SUbD, Profil Builder2, Moi3D, GifCam, Monolith (manual), [url=http://visualizervf.weebly.com:26zyq7ev][u:26zyq7ev]Visualizer[/u:26zyq7ev][/url:26zyq7ev], [url=http://visualizervf.weebly.com:26zyq7ev][u:26zyq7ev]SolveSpace[/u:26zyq7ev][/url:26zyq7ev] etc...and so many UI, Manuals, curiosities etc...
        I'm frightened by this list! 💚

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
          last edited by

          Wow, that is pretty amazing.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            Look at your Private messages! 😉

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              As the number of advanced options have increased (common trusses) the user input menu has slowly grown in size until it is so large that it often does not fit the screen of many laptops and smaller screens.

              This problem has been well documented by a number of users for quite some time.

              This weekend I spent some time putting together a new HTML menu for advanced options for roof trusses:

              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su323_800.jpg

              I still need to work out the metric version and also all of the language translations but otherwise I think it is almost ready to roll out.

              As you mouse over each of the options a 320x240 image will display as shown, hopefully clarifying the meaning or usage of each parameter/option.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                Help Image is a very very good idea! 👍
                Very very first draft as you can see the "?" ! 😉

                Veuillez choisir les options avancées pour les fermes de toiture
                Roof and Wall Sheathing = Revêtement de Toiture et Revêtement Mural
                Roof Sheathing = Revêtement de Toiture
                Roof Sheating Thickness = Épaisseur du Revêtement de Toiture
                Gable Wall Sheathing = Revêtement Mural du Pignon

                sub-fascia = Sous-fascia ?
                sub-fascia type = Type de Sous-fascia ?
                sub-fascia width = Largeur de Sous-fascia ?
                sub-fascia depth = Profondeur de Sous-fascia ?

                rakeboard = ?
                gable overhang = Porte-à-faux du Pignon
                rake board width = Largeur ?
                rake board depth = Profondeur ?

                outloockers = Débords ?
                outlooker spacing = Espacement du Débord ?
                outlooker size = Taille du Débord ?
                structural outlookers = Débord Structurel ?
                outlooker @ roof peak = Débord @ Pointe de Toit ?

                heel blocking = Blocage du Talon ?
                heel block orientation = Orientation du Talon ?

                cladding = Revêtement
                roof cladding = Revêtement de Toiture
                hip and ridge cap = Capuchon de Croupe et de Faîtage ?
                gable wall cladding = Revêtement Mural du Pignon

                additional options = Options Supplémentaires
                soffit cut = Coupe de Soffite ?
                roof returns = Retours de Toit
                roof battens = Lattes de toit
                ceiling gypsum = Gypse de Plafond
                gutters = Gouttières

                ...
                dropped top chord = Panne Supérieure Lancée ?

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  First glance! 😄 (must be refined)

                  Veuillez sélectionner l'un des types de fermes suivants:

                  Commun en W - Tunnel - Mono-Pente - Ciseaux - Empennage - Double-Pente
                  Corde d'Arc (?) - Arceau de Barrique (?) - Polynésien - Bombé - Cathédrale - Plateau (?)
                  Simple Ciseau - Simple Cathédrale - Shed - Voûte En Berceau (?) - Tunnel à la Mansart - Caisson
                  Treillis - Cathédrale Symétrique - Studio en Berceau - Double Inversé - Corde Parallèle - Charpente

                  Remarque: Les types de ferme Shed, Arceau de barrique, Studio en Berceau et Double Inversé sont en cours de développement et ne sont pas encore disponibles.

                  ferme.jpg

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    Version 2.1.1 - 12.04.2017

                    • Enabled a graphical user interface for advanced options of roof trusses.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      new refinement! 😄

                      • Commun ( Classique en w) - Grenier( Habitable) - Mono-Pente - Ciseaux( Entrait Retroussé)- Empennage ( à coyeau) Double-Pente ( Asymétrique)
                      • Corde d'Arc (Arc) - Arceau de Barrique (Arc triangulé) - Polynésien ( tropicale)- Bombé ( entrait retroussé variante ou Polonceau ) - Cathédrale - Plateau(Double ferme articulée)
                      • Simple Ciseau - Simple Cathédrale - Clergé (Contemporaine ) - Voûte En Berceau (En voute ) - Grenier Surélevé ( à la Mansart)- Caisson ( à entrait décalé)
                      • Plat ( poutre treillis )- Cathédrale Symétrique ( treillis à deux pentes) - Studio en Berceau ( à entrait décalé) - Double Inversé ( double articulée) - Corde Parallèle - Charpente

                      https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/255775ferme03.jpg

                      https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/647757ferme02.jpg

                      https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/484019ferme04.jpg

                      https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/576001ferme01.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        I am trying to understand how the Mac .plist file works. Is it similar to the registry? I have a client that is having some trouble with registering (inputting their serial into the global settings) and having their system save the serial number.

                        Unfortunately, I don't own a Mac so I am not much help. Does anyone use the plugin on a Mac and have had similar problems with saving the serial number? Where does one go to manually edit the .plist file and enter in the serial number manually.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          glro
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                          @medeek said:

                          I am trying to understand how the Mac .plist file works. Is it similar to the registry? I have a client that is having some trouble with registering (inputting their serial into the global settings) and having their system save the serial number.

                          Unfortunately, I don't own a Mac so I am not much help. Does anyone use the plugin on a Mac and have had similar problems with saving the serial number? Where does one go to manually edit the .plist file and enter in the serial number manually.

                          not only that
                          i had the same questions
                          so i bought a mac: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Mini
                          sheap, you can use windows mouse, keyboard and screen
                          there are a few things to modify in the ruby code por windows, to make it work on a mac

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by

                            I am working on adding the heel blocking since it is an option listed in the advanced options.

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su324_800.jpg

                            So far there has not been much call for this feature but a few people have inquired so I figured we might as well add it in for completeness. The red coloration is for clarity in the image above.

                            I will probably add the option to allow for venting holes since this is fairly typical in my neck of the woods.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • pbacotP Offline
                              pbacot
                              last edited by

                              Very important. Sometimes the heel blocking, when taller, is a truss manufactured square that might have sheathing.

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                @pbacot said:

                                Very important. Sometimes the heel blocking, when taller, is a truss manufactured square that might have sheathing.

                                I agree, I was investigating this a while back but I'm not sure yet what is standard practice, there could be a number of ways of handling this.

                                http://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1484676854/tips/SHEAR_PANELS_ego3xz.jpg

                                http://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1484694321/tips/SHEAR_PANELS2_vis1pr.jpg

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • pbacotP Offline
                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by

                                  Those look nice. I think sometimes the truss blocking has a diagonal which would make it effective (but the engineer will want plywood on it anyway it seems). You can have the truss all the way to the top or the method you show allows (1) continuous plywood gets nailed to the top of the truss block and the solid block provides the shear nailing (2) sometimes decorative rafter tails are added which need to pass through the space above the truss block.

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    Featured on the SketchUp Extension Inspection:

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      Very enlighting video! 😎

                                      else (Always : https://trussfr.weebly.com 😉
                                      Truss Type = Type de Fermes
                                      (not sure to translate all names of this little list of part of trusses)
                                      King Post
                                      Queen Post
                                      Fink
                                      Howe
                                      Fan
                                      Mod Queen
                                      Double Fink
                                      Double Howe
                                      Mod Fan
                                      Triple Fink
                                      Quad Fink

                                      Out-to-Out Span = Portée Hors tout
                                      Top Chord Angle = Angle de Corde Supérieure (?)
                                      Overhang Left = Porte-à-faux Gauche
                                      Overhang Right   (Same as Left) = Porte-à-faux Droit (Identique au Gauche)
                                      TC Size = Taille TC (? à définir)
                                      BC Size = Taille BC (? à définir)
                                      Web Size = Taille (?)
                                      Ply Thickness = Epaisseur du Pli
                                      Raised Heel (No, Yes) =Talon surélevé (?) ( (Non, Oui)
                                      Heel Heigh = Hauteur du Talon (?)

                                      Bldg.lenght = Longueur Bâtiment
                                      Truss Spacing = Espacement de Ferme
                                      Gable End Trusses (Yes, No, Front) = Poutrelles d'extrémité (Oui, Non, Face Avant)
                                      Gable Stud Spacing = Espacement Goujons de Pignon (?)
                                      Adv. Roof Options (Yes, No) = Options Avancées de Toit (Oui, Non)

                                      PS
                                      Does the Messages' window data is self-adapting to the length of words ?

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        Thank-you Pilou, I will add these phrases into the language file.

                                        Yes, the SU menu automatically adjust for the length of the words so even though French is often more verbose than English it does not matter. I've noticed though that Russian has some problems rendering in the SU menus.

                                        I would have liked to see the video dive into the advanced menus more but I realize there is far too much material to cover in such a short video.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Yes, the SU menu automatically adjust for the length

                                          Excellent! 👍

                                          What is BC and TC size ? 😳

                                          Minor Roof Family = Famille de Toit Secondaire

                                          Gable Dormer = Lucarne de Pignon
                                          Hit Dormer = Lucarne de Toit
                                          Shed Dormer = Lucarne de Hangar
                                          Gable Roof Minor = Pignon de Toit Secondaire (?)
                                          Hip Roof Minor = Lucarne de Toit Secondaire (?)
                                          Dutch Gable Roof Minor = Pignon de Toit Hollandais Secondaire (?)

                                          The (?) does not signify that is forcefully false but can maybe be enhanced! 😉

                                          Else works fine! 😄

                                          toitu.jpg

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            BC = Bottom Chord
                                            TC = Top Chord
                                            Web = Internal (web) members of truss

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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