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    pilou
    last edited by 2 Dec 2017, 12:20

    Look at your Private messages! 😉

    Frenchy Pilou
    Is beautiful that please without concept!
    My Little site :)

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      medeek
      last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 05:35

      As the number of advanced options have increased (common trusses) the user input menu has slowly grown in size until it is so large that it often does not fit the screen of many laptops and smaller screens.

      This problem has been well documented by a number of users for quite some time.

      This weekend I spent some time putting together a new HTML menu for advanced options for roof trusses:

      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su323_800.jpg

      I still need to work out the metric version and also all of the language translations but otherwise I think it is almost ready to roll out.

      As you mouse over each of the options a 320x240 image will display as shown, hopefully clarifying the meaning or usage of each parameter/option.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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        pilou
        last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 08:59

        Help Image is a very very good idea! 👍
        Very very first draft as you can see the "?" ! 😉

        Veuillez choisir les options avancées pour les fermes de toiture
        Roof and Wall Sheathing = Revêtement de Toiture et Revêtement Mural
        Roof Sheathing = Revêtement de Toiture
        Roof Sheating Thickness = Épaisseur du Revêtement de Toiture
        Gable Wall Sheathing = Revêtement Mural du Pignon

        sub-fascia = Sous-fascia ?
        sub-fascia type = Type de Sous-fascia ?
        sub-fascia width = Largeur de Sous-fascia ?
        sub-fascia depth = Profondeur de Sous-fascia ?

        rakeboard = ?
        gable overhang = Porte-à-faux du Pignon
        rake board width = Largeur ?
        rake board depth = Profondeur ?

        outloockers = Débords ?
        outlooker spacing = Espacement du Débord ?
        outlooker size = Taille du Débord ?
        structural outlookers = Débord Structurel ?
        outlooker @ roof peak = Débord @ Pointe de Toit ?

        heel blocking = Blocage du Talon ?
        heel block orientation = Orientation du Talon ?

        cladding = Revêtement
        roof cladding = Revêtement de Toiture
        hip and ridge cap = Capuchon de Croupe et de Faîtage ?
        gable wall cladding = Revêtement Mural du Pignon

        additional options = Options Supplémentaires
        soffit cut = Coupe de Soffite ?
        roof returns = Retours de Toit
        roof battens = Lattes de toit
        ceiling gypsum = Gypse de Plafond
        gutters = Gouttières

        ...
        dropped top chord = Panne Supérieure Lancée ?

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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          pilou
          last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 10:20

          First glance! 😄 (must be refined)

          Veuillez sélectionner l'un des types de fermes suivants:

          Commun en W - Tunnel - Mono-Pente - Ciseaux - Empennage - Double-Pente
          Corde d'Arc (?) - Arceau de Barrique (?) - Polynésien - Bombé - Cathédrale - Plateau (?)
          Simple Ciseau - Simple Cathédrale - Shed - Voûte En Berceau (?) - Tunnel à la Mansart - Caisson
          Treillis - Cathédrale Symétrique - Studio en Berceau - Double Inversé - Corde Parallèle - Charpente

          Remarque: Les types de ferme Shed, Arceau de barrique, Studio en Berceau et Double Inversé sont en cours de développement et ne sont pas encore disponibles.

          ferme.jpg

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            medeek
            last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 16:02

            Version 2.1.1 - 12.04.2017

            • Enabled a graphical user interface for advanced options of roof trusses.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              pilou
              last edited by 5 Dec 2017, 01:09

              new refinement! 😄

              • Commun ( Classique en w) - Grenier( Habitable) - Mono-Pente - Ciseaux( Entrait Retroussé)- Empennage ( à coyeau) Double-Pente ( Asymétrique)
              • Corde d'Arc (Arc) - Arceau de Barrique (Arc triangulé) - Polynésien ( tropicale)- Bombé ( entrait retroussé variante ou Polonceau ) - Cathédrale - Plateau(Double ferme articulée)
              • Simple Ciseau - Simple Cathédrale - Clergé (Contemporaine ) - Voûte En Berceau (En voute ) - Grenier Surélevé ( à la Mansart)- Caisson ( à entrait décalé)
              • Plat ( poutre treillis )- Cathédrale Symétrique ( treillis à deux pentes) - Studio en Berceau ( à entrait décalé) - Double Inversé ( double articulée) - Corde Parallèle - Charpente

              https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/255775ferme03.jpg

              https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/647757ferme02.jpg

              https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/484019ferme04.jpg

              https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/576001ferme01.jpg

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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                medeek
                last edited by 7 Dec 2017, 17:05

                I am trying to understand how the Mac .plist file works. Is it similar to the registry? I have a client that is having some trouble with registering (inputting their serial into the global settings) and having their system save the serial number.

                Unfortunately, I don't own a Mac so I am not much help. Does anyone use the plugin on a Mac and have had similar problems with saving the serial number? Where does one go to manually edit the .plist file and enter in the serial number manually.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                  glro
                  last edited by 7 Dec 2017, 19:02

                  @medeek said:

                  I am trying to understand how the Mac .plist file works. Is it similar to the registry? I have a client that is having some trouble with registering (inputting their serial into the global settings) and having their system save the serial number.

                  Unfortunately, I don't own a Mac so I am not much help. Does anyone use the plugin on a Mac and have had similar problems with saving the serial number? Where does one go to manually edit the .plist file and enter in the serial number manually.

                  not only that
                  i had the same questions
                  so i bought a mac: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Mini
                  sheap, you can use windows mouse, keyboard and screen
                  there are a few things to modify in the ruby code por windows, to make it work on a mac

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                    medeek
                    last edited by 10 Dec 2017, 17:38

                    I am working on adding the heel blocking since it is an option listed in the advanced options.

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su324_800.jpg

                    So far there has not been much call for this feature but a few people have inquired so I figured we might as well add it in for completeness. The red coloration is for clarity in the image above.

                    I will probably add the option to allow for venting holes since this is fairly typical in my neck of the woods.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                      pbacot
                      last edited by 10 Dec 2017, 21:36

                      Very important. Sometimes the heel blocking, when taller, is a truss manufactured square that might have sheathing.

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                        medeek
                        last edited by 10 Dec 2017, 22:14

                        @pbacot said:

                        Very important. Sometimes the heel blocking, when taller, is a truss manufactured square that might have sheathing.

                        I agree, I was investigating this a while back but I'm not sure yet what is standard practice, there could be a number of ways of handling this.

                        http://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1484676854/tips/SHEAR_PANELS_ego3xz.jpg

                        http://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1484694321/tips/SHEAR_PANELS2_vis1pr.jpg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          pbacot
                          last edited by 11 Dec 2017, 00:32

                          Those look nice. I think sometimes the truss blocking has a diagonal which would make it effective (but the engineer will want plywood on it anyway it seems). You can have the truss all the way to the top or the method you show allows (1) continuous plywood gets nailed to the top of the truss block and the solid block provides the shear nailing (2) sometimes decorative rafter tails are added which need to pass through the space above the truss block.

                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                            medeek
                            last edited by 11 Dec 2017, 21:48

                            Featured on the SketchUp Extension Inspection:

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                              pilou
                              last edited by 11 Dec 2017, 22:41

                              Very enlighting video! 😎

                              else (Always : https://trussfr.weebly.com 😉
                              Truss Type = Type de Fermes
                              (not sure to translate all names of this little list of part of trusses)
                              King Post
                              Queen Post
                              Fink
                              Howe
                              Fan
                              Mod Queen
                              Double Fink
                              Double Howe
                              Mod Fan
                              Triple Fink
                              Quad Fink

                              Out-to-Out Span = Portée Hors tout
                              Top Chord Angle = Angle de Corde Supérieure (?)
                              Overhang Left = Porte-à-faux Gauche
                              Overhang Right   (Same as Left) = Porte-à-faux Droit (Identique au Gauche)
                              TC Size = Taille TC (? à définir)
                              BC Size = Taille BC (? à définir)
                              Web Size = Taille (?)
                              Ply Thickness = Epaisseur du Pli
                              Raised Heel (No, Yes) =Talon surélevé (?) ( (Non, Oui)
                              Heel Heigh = Hauteur du Talon (?)

                              Bldg.lenght = Longueur Bâtiment
                              Truss Spacing = Espacement de Ferme
                              Gable End Trusses (Yes, No, Front) = Poutrelles d'extrémité (Oui, Non, Face Avant)
                              Gable Stud Spacing = Espacement Goujons de Pignon (?)
                              Adv. Roof Options (Yes, No) = Options Avancées de Toit (Oui, Non)

                              PS
                              Does the Messages' window data is self-adapting to the length of words ?

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 11 Dec 2017, 23:51

                                Thank-you Pilou, I will add these phrases into the language file.

                                Yes, the SU menu automatically adjust for the length of the words so even though French is often more verbose than English it does not matter. I've noticed though that Russian has some problems rendering in the SU menus.

                                I would have liked to see the video dive into the advanced menus more but I realize there is far too much material to cover in such a short video.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by 12 Dec 2017, 00:04

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Yes, the SU menu automatically adjust for the length

                                  Excellent! 👍

                                  What is BC and TC size ? 😳

                                  Minor Roof Family = Famille de Toit Secondaire

                                  Gable Dormer = Lucarne de Pignon
                                  Hit Dormer = Lucarne de Toit
                                  Shed Dormer = Lucarne de Hangar
                                  Gable Roof Minor = Pignon de Toit Secondaire (?)
                                  Hip Roof Minor = Lucarne de Toit Secondaire (?)
                                  Dutch Gable Roof Minor = Pignon de Toit Hollandais Secondaire (?)

                                  The (?) does not signify that is forcefully false but can maybe be enhanced! 😉

                                  Else works fine! 😄

                                  toitu.jpg

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 13 Dec 2017, 13:56

                                    BC = Bottom Chord
                                    TC = Top Chord
                                    Web = Internal (web) members of truss

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by 13 Dec 2017, 14:30

                                      Thx for the Infos! ☀

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 13 Dec 2017, 16:17

                                        The license registration module was causing some problems in isolated cases so I've released a sub-rev. 2.1.1b to address that issue.

                                        If you are trying to enter in your serial number and it does not appear to take, first verify that you are not entering in any leading or trailing white spaces if that does not solve the problem you may be encountering the issue at top, in that case download the latest version which should address the issue fully.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          pilou
                                          last edited by 14 Dec 2017, 10:20

                                          😉
                                          Valley set chest => Panel de Noue

                                          Stepdown Hip Set => Panel de Panne de Rive Inclinée

                                          Terminal Hip Set => Panel de Sablière

                                          Northeast Hip Set => Panel de Linçoir

                                          Metal plate connectors = Connecteur Métallique Plat
                                          Gusset = Gousset

                                          Web = Membrure
                                          Web = Fiche & Contre-Fiche

                                          in this following Schema "Chantignole" is false : must be "Arbalétrier" ! 🤓

                                          https://media.ooreka.fr/public/image/plan-charpente-29-big-9926265.jpg

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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