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    medeek
    last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 16:14

    French translation of the Roof Truss Menu:

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su322_800.jpg

    I will roll a sub revision so everyone can try it out.

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      pilou
      last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 18:21

      It's a beginning! 😄

      Have you a system of translation ?
      Or I must edit some files ?

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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        medeek
        last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 19:25

        I am still compiling the list of words and phrases, there are a lot of menus, too many.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          pilou
          last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 23:00

          That is the problem of very detailed program! 😉

          Ps I can make an adpatation of this page in French! 😉
          Only for the fun, (It's my hobby) ☀

          So that will be a cool training for the future Panel's Truss Translation!

          Yet made Twillight , Podium , FlexTools , Groboto (collector), ZBrush , SimLab Composer ,
          3DCoat (Manual), PolyBrush , Qubicle2 , SUbD , Profil Builder2 , Moi3D , GifCam , Monolith (manual), [url=http://visualizervf.weebly.com:26zyq7ev][u:26zyq7ev]Visualizer[/u:26zyq7ev][/url:26zyq7ev], [url=http://visualizervf.weebly.com:26zyq7ev][u:26zyq7ev]SolveSpace[/u:26zyq7ev][/url:26zyq7ev] etc...and so many UI, Manuals, curiosities etc...
          I'm frightened by this list! 💚

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            medeek
            last edited by 2 Dec 2017, 05:18

            Wow, that is pretty amazing.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              pilou
              last edited by 2 Dec 2017, 12:20

              Look at your Private messages! 😉

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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                medeek
                last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 05:35

                As the number of advanced options have increased (common trusses) the user input menu has slowly grown in size until it is so large that it often does not fit the screen of many laptops and smaller screens.

                This problem has been well documented by a number of users for quite some time.

                This weekend I spent some time putting together a new HTML menu for advanced options for roof trusses:

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su323_800.jpg

                I still need to work out the metric version and also all of the language translations but otherwise I think it is almost ready to roll out.

                As you mouse over each of the options a 320x240 image will display as shown, hopefully clarifying the meaning or usage of each parameter/option.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                  pilou
                  last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 08:59

                  Help Image is a very very good idea! 👍
                  Very very first draft as you can see the "?" ! 😉

                  Veuillez choisir les options avancées pour les fermes de toiture
                  Roof and Wall Sheathing = Revêtement de Toiture et Revêtement Mural
                  Roof Sheathing = Revêtement de Toiture
                  Roof Sheating Thickness = Épaisseur du Revêtement de Toiture
                  Gable Wall Sheathing = Revêtement Mural du Pignon

                  sub-fascia = Sous-fascia ?
                  sub-fascia type = Type de Sous-fascia ?
                  sub-fascia width = Largeur de Sous-fascia ?
                  sub-fascia depth = Profondeur de Sous-fascia ?

                  rakeboard = ?
                  gable overhang = Porte-à-faux du Pignon
                  rake board width = Largeur ?
                  rake board depth = Profondeur ?

                  outloockers = Débords ?
                  outlooker spacing = Espacement du Débord ?
                  outlooker size = Taille du Débord ?
                  structural outlookers = Débord Structurel ?
                  outlooker @ roof peak = Débord @ Pointe de Toit ?

                  heel blocking = Blocage du Talon ?
                  heel block orientation = Orientation du Talon ?

                  cladding = Revêtement
                  roof cladding = Revêtement de Toiture
                  hip and ridge cap = Capuchon de Croupe et de Faîtage ?
                  gable wall cladding = Revêtement Mural du Pignon

                  additional options = Options Supplémentaires
                  soffit cut = Coupe de Soffite ?
                  roof returns = Retours de Toit
                  roof battens = Lattes de toit
                  ceiling gypsum = Gypse de Plafond
                  gutters = Gouttières

                  ...
                  dropped top chord = Panne Supérieure Lancée ?

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 10:20

                    First glance! 😄 (must be refined)

                    Veuillez sélectionner l'un des types de fermes suivants:

                    Commun en W - Tunnel - Mono-Pente - Ciseaux - Empennage - Double-Pente
                    Corde d'Arc (?) - Arceau de Barrique (?) - Polynésien - Bombé - Cathédrale - Plateau (?)
                    Simple Ciseau - Simple Cathédrale - Shed - Voûte En Berceau (?) - Tunnel à la Mansart - Caisson
                    Treillis - Cathédrale Symétrique - Studio en Berceau - Double Inversé - Corde Parallèle - Charpente

                    Remarque: Les types de ferme Shed, Arceau de barrique, Studio en Berceau et Double Inversé sont en cours de développement et ne sont pas encore disponibles.

                    ferme.jpg

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                      medeek
                      last edited by 4 Dec 2017, 16:02

                      Version 2.1.1 - 12.04.2017

                      • Enabled a graphical user interface for advanced options of roof trusses.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                        pilou
                        last edited by 5 Dec 2017, 01:09

                        new refinement! 😄

                        • Commun ( Classique en w) - Grenier( Habitable) - Mono-Pente - Ciseaux( Entrait Retroussé)- Empennage ( à coyeau) Double-Pente ( Asymétrique)
                        • Corde d'Arc (Arc) - Arceau de Barrique (Arc triangulé) - Polynésien ( tropicale)- Bombé ( entrait retroussé variante ou Polonceau ) - Cathédrale - Plateau(Double ferme articulée)
                        • Simple Ciseau - Simple Cathédrale - Clergé (Contemporaine ) - Voûte En Berceau (En voute ) - Grenier Surélevé ( à la Mansart)- Caisson ( à entrait décalé)
                        • Plat ( poutre treillis )- Cathédrale Symétrique ( treillis à deux pentes) - Studio en Berceau ( à entrait décalé) - Double Inversé ( double articulée) - Corde Parallèle - Charpente

                        https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/255775ferme03.jpg

                        https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/647757ferme02.jpg

                        https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/484019ferme04.jpg

                        https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/576001ferme01.jpg

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 7 Dec 2017, 17:05

                          I am trying to understand how the Mac .plist file works. Is it similar to the registry? I have a client that is having some trouble with registering (inputting their serial into the global settings) and having their system save the serial number.

                          Unfortunately, I don't own a Mac so I am not much help. Does anyone use the plugin on a Mac and have had similar problems with saving the serial number? Where does one go to manually edit the .plist file and enter in the serial number manually.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            glro
                            last edited by 7 Dec 2017, 19:02

                            @medeek said:

                            I am trying to understand how the Mac .plist file works. Is it similar to the registry? I have a client that is having some trouble with registering (inputting their serial into the global settings) and having their system save the serial number.

                            Unfortunately, I don't own a Mac so I am not much help. Does anyone use the plugin on a Mac and have had similar problems with saving the serial number? Where does one go to manually edit the .plist file and enter in the serial number manually.

                            not only that
                            i had the same questions
                            so i bought a mac: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Mini
                            sheap, you can use windows mouse, keyboard and screen
                            there are a few things to modify in the ruby code por windows, to make it work on a mac

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 10 Dec 2017, 17:38

                              I am working on adding the heel blocking since it is an option listed in the advanced options.

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su324_800.jpg

                              So far there has not been much call for this feature but a few people have inquired so I figured we might as well add it in for completeness. The red coloration is for clarity in the image above.

                              I will probably add the option to allow for venting holes since this is fairly typical in my neck of the woods.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                pbacot
                                last edited by 10 Dec 2017, 21:36

                                Very important. Sometimes the heel blocking, when taller, is a truss manufactured square that might have sheathing.

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 10 Dec 2017, 22:14

                                  @pbacot said:

                                  Very important. Sometimes the heel blocking, when taller, is a truss manufactured square that might have sheathing.

                                  I agree, I was investigating this a while back but I'm not sure yet what is standard practice, there could be a number of ways of handling this.

                                  http://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1484676854/tips/SHEAR_PANELS_ego3xz.jpg

                                  http://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1484694321/tips/SHEAR_PANELS2_vis1pr.jpg

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                    pbacot
                                    last edited by 11 Dec 2017, 00:32

                                    Those look nice. I think sometimes the truss blocking has a diagonal which would make it effective (but the engineer will want plywood on it anyway it seems). You can have the truss all the way to the top or the method you show allows (1) continuous plywood gets nailed to the top of the truss block and the solid block provides the shear nailing (2) sometimes decorative rafter tails are added which need to pass through the space above the truss block.

                                    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 11 Dec 2017, 21:48

                                      Featured on the SketchUp Extension Inspection:

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        pilou
                                        last edited by 11 Dec 2017, 22:41

                                        Very enlighting video! 😎

                                        else (Always : https://trussfr.weebly.com 😉
                                        Truss Type = Type de Fermes
                                        (not sure to translate all names of this little list of part of trusses)
                                        King Post
                                        Queen Post
                                        Fink
                                        Howe
                                        Fan
                                        Mod Queen
                                        Double Fink
                                        Double Howe
                                        Mod Fan
                                        Triple Fink
                                        Quad Fink

                                        Out-to-Out Span = Portée Hors tout
                                        Top Chord Angle = Angle de Corde Supérieure (?)
                                        Overhang Left = Porte-à-faux Gauche
                                        Overhang Right   (Same as Left) = Porte-à-faux Droit (Identique au Gauche)
                                        TC Size = Taille TC (? à définir)
                                        BC Size = Taille BC (? à définir)
                                        Web Size = Taille (?)
                                        Ply Thickness = Epaisseur du Pli
                                        Raised Heel (No, Yes) =Talon surélevé (?) ( (Non, Oui)
                                        Heel Heigh = Hauteur du Talon (?)

                                        Bldg.lenght = Longueur Bâtiment
                                        Truss Spacing = Espacement de Ferme
                                        Gable End Trusses (Yes, No, Front) = Poutrelles d'extrémité (Oui, Non, Face Avant)
                                        Gable Stud Spacing = Espacement Goujons de Pignon (?)
                                        Adv. Roof Options (Yes, No) = Options Avancées de Toit (Oui, Non)

                                        PS
                                        Does the Messages' window data is self-adapting to the length of words ?

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                          medeek
                                          last edited by 11 Dec 2017, 23:51

                                          Thank-you Pilou, I will add these phrases into the language file.

                                          Yes, the SU menu automatically adjust for the length of the words so even though French is often more verbose than English it does not matter. I've noticed though that Russian has some problems rendering in the SU menus.

                                          I would have liked to see the video dive into the advanced menus more but I realize there is far too much material to cover in such a short video.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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